STEPHENS

[deb usa]

hi Bry

I will try to find out about the America bit ...have you found the family in 1891. When do you first find them in Scotland ? I am assuming there were there in 1871 as I have not been able to find them in 1871 on the UK census ...

Also just a note ...I have been on National Archives and put in Stephens, St Agnes Cornwall ...a few things pop up ... also on Ancestry there are two WW1 records for BARKLA/BARKELL/BARKLE who were born in St Agnes Cornwall.

I will look further

deb

[bry-l]

Hi Deb,

Yes I have Nicholas & Ann in 1891. They are staying with their married daughter in Lasswade, Midlothian. I cannot locate the family in 1871, the earliest I have them in Scotland is the birth of daughter Susan in 1873.

Ann is at the same address in 1881 (without Nicholas) as in 1891

Cheers
Bry

[deb usa]

Hi Bry

I posted a message last night and it has disappeared 

nicholas and family are definitely not in Cornwall in 1871, BUT I have found quite a few Stephens/ Stevens in WALES .... all born St Agnes. There is a very interesting family ... Nicholas, Ann, William, Mary A, Bessie and sarah ... I wonder ....

Do you have access or would you like me to post the details?

deb

[bry-l]

Deb,

Please please post the details.

Thanks
Bry

[deb usa]

Hi Bry

This is what I found in WALES
1871

Minera, Bersham, Denbighshire wales  (RD~ Wrexham)
Williams Square

Nicholas STEVENS head mar 36 lead miner b St Agnes
Ann wife mar 36 b St Agnes
William J son unm 14 lead washer b St Agnes
Mary A dau unm 10 scholar b St Agnes
Bessy dau 8 scholar b St Agnes
Sarah J dau 1 b Denbigh, Bersham

This is what we had in 1861 in Cornwall....

Hi all


St Agnes, Cornwall
Nicholas Stephens head mar 27 tin miner
Ann wife mar 27
William son 5 scholar
MARY A dau 3
Sarah dau 2 months

all born in St Agnes, Cornwall
 

deb

Do these children add up with what you have in 1881 and 1891 in Scotland ...let me know . Also I will check to see if Sarah , who is 2months in 1861, died or is she with someone else?

deb
ps I will find all the other Stephens/Stevens b St Agnes ... I think they are siblings or definitely relatives of Nicholas .

[Gadget]

Hi Deb and Byr-l

Just been reading the last page of this thread. Interesting as there was quite an influx of miners from Cornwall to the North Wales coalfield at that time. A range of minerals were mined in the Minera area. Bersham became mainly coal mining.

Gadget 

[deb usa]

Hi Gadget 

thanks for that. I wonder why they left Cornwall in the first place though? Tin Mining was big there ...maybe it was the offer of more pay/better conditions?

deb:)

[Gadget]

I think there might have been a decline at some point (some bells are ringing from when I lived down there) and possibly the chance of more money.

Some of my rellies worked at Bersham 

Did you say where in Scotland they were - was it a coalfield area?

Gadget

[deb usa]

Not sure what was happening in Scotland , but Nicholas went to America for a bit too ... I wonder if that was to the gold fields ... unfortunately I don't have USA access so I am going to ask my cousin for help with that side ...

Yes I have Nicholas & Ann in 1891. They are staying with their married daughter in Lasswade, Midlothian. I cannot locate the family in 1871, the earliest I have them in Scotland is the birth of daughter Susan in 1873.

Ann is at the same address in 1881 (without Nicholas) as in 1891

deb