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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:06 BST (UK) »
Nicholas and Ann had to have made their way to Wales after 1863 when Bessy was born .... is there a death of a Sarah b c 1861 in Wales ?? The only death for a Sarah Stephens is  March 1865 St Germans, Cornwall.

we need to find Sarah's death .... :'(

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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:09 BST (UK) »
Sorry Deb - I modified my last post - she could have died anywhere on the way.

The Welsh BMDs are with the English ones. They could have gone by train (say via Bristol) or road or even canal  :-\
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:12 BST (UK) »
there's the death of a Sarah Stephens, Ruabon, (Wrexham RD and close to Bersham) in 1869 showing on the North Wales BMDs.

It's a possible,

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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:17 BST (UK) »
That looks like the likely one Gadget ...

Bry ...will have to confirm all of this with the 1881 and 1891 census details ... there was supposedly another child b c 1873 in Scotland ... hopefully bry's details of this family, have a child , Sarah J, b in Wales ...


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Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:26 BST (UK) »
The Stephens that I've got in Lasswade, Scotland on the 1881 don't tie in with any of the details here except son William:

691 Ed 9 Page 18 - Lasswade, Midlothian

William Stephens, hd, 24, coal miner, b. England
Jane, wife, 24, b. Lasswade
Nicholae, 2, b. Lasswade
Alexander L, 4 mths, b. Lasswade

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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:43 BST (UK) »
Gadget

Can you find Nicholas and Ann ... below

Hi Deb,

Yes I have Nicholas & Ann in 1891. They are staying with their married daughter in Lasswade, Midlothian. I cannot locate the family in 1871, the earliest I have them in Scotland is the birth of daughter Susan in 1873.

Ann is at the same address in 1881 (without Nicholas) as in 1891

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:54 BST (UK) »
They're living with Sarah Jane - their daughter, now married to a John Cochrane in 1891 - both aged 58

20 Ramsay Square, Lesswade 691 Ed 10 page 25

I'll have another look but I have to go soon.

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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 17:00 BST (UK) »
Yes in 1881 they are living at 20 Ramsay Square  - 691 Ed 9 Page 21

Ann 47, Sarah, 11 and a John Williams, boarder .

i don't see Nicholas either Wales or Scotland at the moment.

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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 17:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget

Nicholas is supposedly in the USA ...not sure where though

I think the only way to confirm all of the children (except William and Mary Ann , who were with their parents in 1861, cornwall) is for Bry to order birth certs of Bessy  (truro 1863) and Sarah J (1870 , Wales ).

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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