STEPHENS

[bry-l]

Hi,

Im a scottish researcher chasing up mainly Scottish ancestors however it was family rumour that my paternal line came from cornwall (miners moving up to the scottish coal fields). This has not been the case so far however my Gr x2 Grandmother is recorded as English in the 1891 Census. Her name is Mary-Ann Stephens, born about 1857 ish to Nicholas and Anne ***** and I am presuming this is where the family rumour came from.

Not being familiar with the English records, where would be the best place to start tracing Mary-Ann

Cheers
Bry-1

[krisesjoint]

Welcome to Cornwall Bry-1,

If your ancestors came from Cornwall you will be very lucky as much is available. 

I would suggest a good place to start is with the census which is available free online as are many parish records once you know where in Cornwall your ancestors came from.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html
 
Cheers Kris 

[Thamesite2017]

Yes agree we are lucky to have cornish roots, because researching is so much easier
Try entering Stephens at the free COCP census site to start with - many years complete
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/search.html
238 Mary Stephens, you can narrow down "Mary A Stephens" and "Mary Ann Stephens"
Searching for Nicholas may be easier pre 1861

A lot of records are at a joint database
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?dbname=baptisms

Searching also at free bmd
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl for cornwall results, also gives you some possible areas to follow up.
If you go to cornwall genuki
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ then the parish you want, you will quickly get to available online records also if there is an OPC (volunteer) who will help you with the parish they are gathering records for

Bye
Althea

At Free bmd

[deb usa]

Hi all 

I found this in 1861

St Agnes, Cornwall
Nicholas Stephens head mar 27 tin miner
Ann wife mar 27
William son 5 scholar
MARY A dau 3
Sarah dau 2 months

all born in St Agnes, Cornwall
 

1851:
St Agnes, cornwall
Ann Stephens head wid 59
Stephen son unm 27 tin miner
Susan dau 22 unm work at the mine
John son 20 unm tin miner
NICHOLAS son unm 17 tin miner
Elizabeth dau unm 13 at home

all born St agnes

there is a marriage between Nicholas Stephens and either ANN BARKLE or ANN PETERS dec q 1854, Truro
vol 5c pg 339

deb

[deb usa]

here is 1841.... Family of Nicholas Stephens , father of Mary ann Stephens b c 1858.

St Agnes, Cornwall
Chapel Coombe

Nicholas Stephens 49 copper miner
Ann Stephens
Stephen Stevens 15 copper miner
Mary  Stephens 14
John Stephens 10
NICHOLAS STEPHENS 7
Elizabeth Stephens 3
James Stephens 3 months
all born in county

next door to them is;
Ann Stephens 89? ind
Susan Stephens 12

on IGI there is a submitted entry for this marriage~

Nicholas STEPHENS to Ann WEBB
20 Oct 1823
St Agnes near Truro

deb

[deb usa]

Hi again

I was trying to figure out which Ann Nicholas Stephens married ...

on the page were the two Anns .... BARKLE and PETERS
then 2 men ...Nicholas STEPHENS and William MCADAM

The wife of Nicholas, in 1861 states that she was born in ST AGNES, Cornwall circa 1834.
I found an Anne MCADAMS  who states , also in 1861 census , that she was born TRURO circa 1823.

In 1851 ...I find an ANN BARKLA (sic) living in St Agnes with her parents (James and Hannah?)  aged 18, she works in the mine.
In 1851..There is an ANN PETERS b c 1823 who is married ...I wonder if this could be the Ann who married William MCADAM ...thus leaving Ann BARKLE/A to be the wife of Nicholas , mother of Mary Ann b 1858.

deb

[bry-l]

Thanks all, especially to deb usa.

Nicholas was married to Ann barkle (Barcel) I have never quite managed to decipher her name from the various statuary documents downloaded from Scotlandspeople.gov.

The latest document downloaded yesterday for the birth of a daughter in 1873 details their marriage in March 22 1855 in Truro.

Can I ask where you found the information?

Thanks again
bry-l

[Thamesite2017]

Did you mean where was 1851 census
96,Mingoose,James Barkla,Head,M,51,,Copper Miner,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,Honour Barkla,Wife,M,,49,,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,James Barkla,Son,U,24,,,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,Ann Barkla,Dau,U,,18,Work At Mine,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,Mary Barkla,Dau,U,,16,Work At Mine,St Agnes Cornwall,,
Folio 664 Page 27
,,Henry Barkla,Son,,13,,At Home,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,Samuel Barkla,Son,,11,,At Home,St Agnes Cornwall,,
,,Catharine Barkla,Dau,,,9,At Home,St Agnes Cornwall,,
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/51909f.html

Go to this page, click on year and district to look in detail or enter name in search boc with year/s required
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/cocp.html

[bry-l]

Hi again,

I have been going through the information most gratefully received and have hit a snag.

Everything seems plausible until the 1841 census which details the parents of Nicholas as Nicholas & Ann.

On the 1913 statuary death record for Nicholas, his grandson has provided these as John (a farmer) and Maria (possibly) with no known surname.

Aaaagh - its pull my hair out time again - was the grandson having a guess or is the census information following the wrong family?

Cheers
Bry-l