John Alsop artist of 12a Edith Terrace, Chelsea COMPLETED THANKS

[Kayzee]

Can anyone give me any information on John Allsop born 1867 Scotland who lived alone at 12a Edith Terrace, Chelsea in 1901. He was an artist who appears to have exhibited as J J Alsop.  Would especially like to know if he married & had descendants but also to see a copy of a painting would be fun & to know if he managed to make a living. Are there any photos of Edith Terrace?

[queenwillow]

try here
www.chelseastudios.co.uk

[ShaunJ]

There's a death notice in The Times of March 11 1954 - John J Alsop RBA died at Gloucester 6th March aged 87, of The Studio Totshill Chepstow youngest son of the late Frederick Alsop of Milngavie.

There are a few mentions of him in The Times
1893, 1899, 1908 as an exhibitor.


A property in Edith Terrace is currently available to let - with a photo http://www.chelseastudios.co.uk/chelseasw10x.htm

[Kayzee]

Thank you doesn't seem enough but THANK YOU! Brilliant result not only can I put a death date & place on the tree I can see inside his building in Chelsea. Do you think the furniture has changed!!! I shall pop down to Chepstow one day & see if there is more to learn but thanks ShaunJ for knocking a brick out of that wall & letting me peep through!

[fairer]

Hi there Kay - I've just googled JJ Alsop and your post below came high up the list.  I don't know if this is the same person or this is of any interest, but I've just bought a little watercolour by JJ Alsop - Royal Society of Birmingham Artists, exhibited 1892-93, and I'm looking into him.  I can send you a photo of it if you like.  (I've never used this website before so not sure whether you'll see this as your original post was a long time ago.)
bw
Alison

[Kayzee]

Hi Alison, Thanks for your message & yes I am very interested. I hope I can help you too, infact I have a family tree for JJ's paternal line going back to the marriage of his 4x gt grandfather in 1683 if you are interested! Assuming that I am correct with my research, JJ was baptised John with no 2nd christian name in Scotland on 21 Feb 1867 but may have aquired the 2nd initial to differentiate between him & his Uncle John 1829 - 1909 who also painted & appears to have lived all his life in Birmingham. Since my initial post I have seen a painting on-line of the Uncle which is held in B'ham City Archives & can be viewed if you google 'John Alsop watercolour' & visit the www.ishepherd.co.uk site mentioned. I have also seen a painting of Greta Bridge by John Alsop 'a scottish artist' was recently sold on ebay. My first record of John jnr.calling himself JJ is in 1897. However, I cannot be sure of these Johns as according to the 'Dictionary of Scottish Art' by Peter J McEwan a John Alsop exhibited a Highland landscape at the RSA in 1856 & this could not have been John Jnr but must have been John snr who at every census appears in B'ham. However John snrs brother Fred (also an artist & father of John jnr)studied for a short time at th Trustees Acadamy in Edinburgh so maybe John snr did too. At the time I looked for Fred I had no idea his brother was also an artist so I failed to ask for a lookup on him
    I hope some of this makes sense & yes please send me a copy of the painting and let me know what it is you are interested in as I have quite a lot of detail from census returns etc. which I will re -aquaint myself with if you are interested. It is not my husband's direct line (we are the poor relations!) so I have not yet visited Chepstow but I take it from the death notice kindly sent by ShaunJ that he was not married. However I have lots of detail about his siblings and a little mystery surrounding his grandfather.
   John Alsop artist of Milngavie is listed in the Glasgow Post Office Directory 1886-87 which I assume is JJ & not his Uncle, but might be wrong as he would then only be 19 or 20. JJ's father Fred is also listed in this same addition (he exhibited at Edinburgh, Glasgow & London). JJ gets a mention in the Dictionary of British Art volume 1V by Christopher Wood 'Alsop JJ RBA fl 1892-1894 London landscape and portrait painter. Exhib at Suffolk Street onlly 1892 -1894'.
   Oh I've just noticed that in the list of exhibits at The Royal Glasgow Institute of Fine Arts 1861 - 1989, JJ exhibited in 1902 whilst living at 12a Edith Terrace entitled 'Study of a head' £50. In the same list J Alsop of Airy Bank, Milngavie exhibited in 1889 'Portrait' & 1890 3 paintings 'September', 'Summer' & 'Portrait. As Airy Bank is the home address of JJ rather than John snr maybe they are all the work of John jnr - who can be sure!
    Anyway I think I've confused you & myself enough for one night! Look forward to hearing from you & confusing you some more!
   Kay
     

[Kayzee]

Hi Alison, It seems you may be having trouble replying to my mail. I have sent you a PM with my e-mail address, hope this helps.

[fairer]

Hi Kay - sorry not to get back to you sooner - just too many things on the go at once.  Very quickly - as my 3 year old is getting bored (!) the JJ Alsop I've come across was a member of the Royal Brimingham Society of Artists  - don't know how this fits with Scotland or Chelsea...  Not a relative of mine (as far as I know!) but I'm just wondering if I've pcikied up a little gem.  will try and attach photos of my picture now.  One of these days I'll get into genealogy but at the moment I'm spending all my time on eBay.
Best wishes
Alison

[Kayzee]

Hi Alison, Thanks for the photos, brilliant info for me, it's the first painting I'm aware of that was not of a British scene, so I can assume he travelled abroad. I have no knowledge of art so can't advise on the 'little gem' scenario but have been advised by an art gallery owner that one of his father's paintings was 'naive'.
    I appreciate you are busy, so will not bombard you with info or queries but feel free to ask me anything you like & this time I will try to answer succinctly!
   Thanks again, your help is very much appreciated, Kay