Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield

[renibacterium]

There are none that i can find.

So do we have to assume that the John Eastwood who married Elizabeth Pet is not the same as the one shown below who married  Katherine Pearle and would therefore not be the son of John Eastwood & Ann Piper ? reni

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,393032.0.html

suey's post 9 from this link

(JOHN EASTWOOD born 1679 died 1743 Mayfield married  26th October 1704 St Dunstans Mayfield to ANN PIPER born about 1676 in Mayfield.) 
This couple also had two known sons WILLIAM EASTWOOD married ANN MONK at Burwash 1739 and JOHN EASTWOOD baptised 12th August 1706 died 1800 Mayfield.
This John married KATHERINE PEARL again in Mayfield by Banns on 26th December 1726.

[suey]

Yes, that is how I see it .

I think it was assumed at first that the John b1706 had married twice.

However... because of that baptism for Anne 1739/40 - the burial for a widow Catharine in 1776, and this could be Katherine Pearl she'd be about age 68 on rough calculations so not impossible...plus the fact that the Withyham marriage only states that Elizabeth Pet is 'of Mayfield'  I think thats enough to at least make us think we have two Johns 

Suey

added...OR someone has to find another Katherine married to a.n other Eastwood

[renibacterium]

"added...OR someone has to find another Katherine married to a.n other Eastwood"

I found no other marriages for a Mr. Eastwood to a Katherine in the SMI.

But how can we be sure that the JOHN EASTWOOD baptised 12th August 1706 died 1800 Mayfield.
married KATHERINE PEARL  26th December 1726 is the son of JOHN EASTWOOD born 1679 died 1743 Mayfield married  26th October 1704 St Dunstans Mayfield to ANN PIPER born about 1676 in Mayfield ?
Equally it could be John Eastwood who married Elizabeth Pet 1739 who is John Snr & Ann Piper's son if there are two John Eastwood's?
Have I missed the conclusive evidence somewhere? reni 

[suey]

"added...OR someone has to find another Katherine married to a.n other Eastwood"

I found no other marriages for a Mr. Eastwood to a Katherine in the SMI.

But how can we be sure that the JOHN EASTWOOD baptised 12th August 1706 died 1800 Mayfield.
married KATHERINE PEARL  26th December 1726 is the son of JOHN EASTWOOD born 1679 died 1743 Mayfield married  26th October 1704 St Dunstans Mayfield to ANN PIPER born about 1676 in Mayfield ?
Equally it could be John Eastwood who married Elizabeth Pet 1739 who is John Snr & Ann Piper's son if there are two John Eastwoods's?
Have I missed the conclusive evidence somewhere? reni 

    Drowning in a sea of tears and frustration here.  The simple answer is we cannot be sure...

Howsomever we can make an edumacated guess
The John born 1726 would have been 20 at the time of his marriage to Katherine Pearl, a more usual age for a fellow to be going up the aisle!  And he was born and married in Mayfield.  So he' is the better candidate to be the son of John and Ann Piper.

Now; as we don't have evidence for another John anywhere we can only surmise his age at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Pet but I usually go on 20/25. 
I think that's why folk thought he was the same John marrying for the second time to E P because he'd have been 33, plenty of time to see off one wife and find another....also the absence of any baptisms to John and Katherine, I think we simply thought she'd died..
Also, although Elizabeth Pet was said to come from Mayfield...John was not similarly described...the marriage was in Withyham which makes me think he is a different John 

Shut me up someone, I'm waffling now

Suey

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There is a John Estwood's baptism  ( 1699/1700) at Buxted on FSO, SOPC & SFHG. His father was a George  Estwood, mother not given. I wonder if anyone on here has this family of Estwood's ? He is another candidate for "our" one/two John's. reni 

PS    I cannot find a marriage for the father George Estwood 

[renibacterium]

There are at least 4 Family trees on A co.uk and "The ancestral pedigree of John Eastwood" on the Weald site which give the marriage of John Eastwood (b  c1705) to Katherine Pearl in 1726 which  produced two daughters in Mayfield, Sarah (b1728) and a Katherine (b1731/2). Births are also in IGI. So we have the possibility of another Katherine Eastwood. But the death of a Katherine in 1776 mentioned earlier was that of a widow. Slim chance she married another Eastwood ! reni 

[suey]

Doh! didn,t think of the Weald website, will have a look, did they give sources?

Where else can we look given that we seem to be tied to the computer?

I've been trying to look on the National Archives website but it seems to be running slowly, for me at least

Suey

[kerryb]

Right one assignment finished and a breather before I start next 2.  whoever said that study was all about drinking and clubbing hasn't done a post grad! 

Anyway one thing that occurred to me do we know when Katherine Pearl was born?  Not sure why I am wondering that except that its useful to know age she was when children are born and when she died.

Kerry

[renibacterium]

On the Weald site the birth of Katherine Pearl is given as   "  c 1705   Born      Estimated date "
which is really  nothing more than a "guestimate". The only death found for a Katherine Eastwood is 1776 widow.