Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield

[renibacterium]

Hi Kerry ,
I looked througj the Mayfield Film at least three times before I found the marriage . John Istod & Ann Piper. I have not found his baptism yet myself , I have not done much Family history this year, I must get back to it and get the Mayfield film again to look at. The trouble is they are very hard to read the older they get. I have1678 as John`s birth year but I` m not sure where I got it from. Hopes that helps.
 I come down through a long line of Eastwoods William 1714, William1743,   William 1782,   John 1821, John 1839, Harriet 1862 where the name changes to Johnson, Annie married a May, my mum Emma married a Munday
  Regards Brenda

I resurrected this thread after going through it again today and realising that the name John Istod could be Isted and that we know this person as John Eastwood. So does the John Eastwood line evolve from the Isted's? There is plenty of info on the web about the Isted families of Sussex. I have looked at some of these sites and amongst  variants of the Isted name mentioned are EASTED, ESTED, ESTEAD, EYSTED, but not Eastwood. There are a lot of us stuck on John Eastwood and Ann Piper. Perhaps this maybe a way forward (or perhaps that should be backwards !!!).  reni


This is actually my wife's line

John Eastwood (b1679) = Ann Piper (b1676)
John Eastwood (b1706) = Elizabeth Pet
Hester Eastwood (b1743 =  Thomas Fenner   (b1738/9)
John Fenner (b1765) = Ann Bones (1768)
Sophia Fenner (b1804) = Thomas Baldwin (b1801)
Sophia Baldwin (1829) = Henry Leaney (b1828)  Sussex
Ruth Leaney( 1861) = (Arthur) Frederick Newman (1860) Surrey
Elizabeth Sophia Newman (b1885) = James Wm. Freeman (b1876 Tottenham)

[kerryb]

Hi Reni

I haven't looked at this family for some time but I think you are right.  It seems that Isted, Istod, Easted, etc etc are all variants on the way to what seems to have become Eastwood.  These names seem quite common in Sussex.

I think I googled some Isted sites last year but maybe need to revisit them.  Another job to add to the list. 

Kerry

[suey]

 

 

 

John Eastwood (b1679) = Ann Piper (b1676)
John Eastwood (b1706) = Elizabeth Pet
Hester Eastwood (b1743 =  Thomas Fenner   (b1738/9)
John Fenner (b1765) = Ann Bones (1768)
Sophia Fenner (b1804) = Thomas Baldwin (b1801)
Sophia Baldwin (1829) = Henry Leaney (b1828)  Sussex
Ruth Leaney( 1861) = (Arthur) Frederick Newman (1860) Surrey
Elizabeth Sophia Newman (b1885) = James Wm. Freeman (b1876 Tottenham)

I don't think we can say with certainty that the John born in 1706 is the son of John and Ann Piper....unless someone knows something I don't know 

If this is the John who married Elizabeth Pet he would have been 33 at the time of the marriage in 1739, 

I keep coming back to the John who married Katherine Pearl in 1726...he would be 20 at the time of the marriage so I don't think we can just dismiss him.

I did wonder if we were looking at the same John getting married for a second time but I see a John and Katherine Eastwood baptising a daughter Anne in 1739/40 - odd because it's the only John and Katherine I've found so far, except we all know the parlous state of the Mayfield registers!

Suey

[renibacterium]

I don't think we can say with certainty that the John born in 1706 is the son of John and Ann Piper....unless someone knows something I don't know 

If this is the John who married Elizabeth Pet he would have been 33 at the time of the marriage in 1739, 

I keep coming back to the John who married Katherine Pearl in 1726...he would be 20 at the time of the marriage so I don't think we can just dismiss him.

I did wonder if we were looking at the same John getting married for a second time but I see a John and Katherine Eastwood baptising a daughter Anne in 1739/40 - odd because it's the only John and Katherine I've found so far, except we all know the parlous state of the Mayfield registers!

Suey

My understanding is that it is the same John Eastwood who first married a Katherine Pearl and then married Elizabeth Pet. This info was provided by kerryb a few years ago in a thread I started. I will see if I can find it. Thanks reni 

Also info. from Janet Sutton on GR. Here it is, but I am not sure whether it proves anything !

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,427541.0.html

 

[suey]

Thanks for the link, I had forgotton that conversation, can these two threads be linked I wonder?


Just found this on SFHG database

Burial Mayfield St Dunstans
Catharine Easwood - 23rd March 1776 - widow

Soooo it gets even more confusing!

Suey 

[kerryb]

I am now beginning to realise why the tutor of my course I am currently studying keeps drumming into me that I should put research notes onto everything I add to my family tree.   

It would certainly help when you revisit these problems such as John Eastwood born 1706. 

This Catharine Easwood who died 1776 could be the next generation though, maybe a bit old to be John's generation??

Kerry

[suey]

I am now beginning to realise why the tutor of my course I am currently studying keeps drumming into me that I should put research notes onto everything I add to my family tree.   

It would certainly help when you revisit these problems such as John Eastwood born 1706. 

This Catharine Easwood who died 1776 could be the next generation though, maybe a bit old to be John's generation??

Kerry

Lol! just been re-visiting all my Eastwood notes and trying to update.

I agree she would be a tad elderly to be Katherine nee Pearl....but I have not found evidence of another Catherine anywhere...yet

Suey

[suey]

When John marries Elizabeth Pet it is she who is described as 'of Mayfield', the marriage takes place in Withyham, spitting distance from the borders of Kent, are we assuming too much here?

Does anyone know if there are Eastwoods over the border?

Suey

ps - I don't know what condition the Withyham registers are in but there do not appear to be any Eastwoods on the SFHG database in that parish 

[kerryb]

bother 

done a quick search of SMI to see if I could find a Catherine/Katherine who could possibly fit the widow who died in Mayfield 1776 and the only Katherine who married a Eastwood was Katherine Pearl. 

We haven't found a burial for a Katherine before 1739 have we?

Kerry