VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[tropicalj]

Hello  again Aumarire

re  your  quote

Meanwhile, back in Melbourne, our poor Giovanni/John and now Frank Balli is languishing in the Melbourne Hospital, and it was only a matter of 17 days later that he died. As previously mentioned, it was a Hall Porter who was the informant for his death

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I  must admit  I  cannot see where  you  have  given  this information  (  please forgive if  it  is  there)

Can  you  please  tell  us when he died  and also  where is he buried ?

kind regards Jenn

[aumarire]

Hi,
It was not me who mentioned this information, it was further back in this chat session, and one of the other folk had also a copy of the death, however, here is the info
John Balle, ( not Balli) died 19 May 1867 in Melbourne Hospital, age 28 years, died of Mortus Cardis, his parents names were listed as unknown, the person registering the death was M.C. Thomas, Hall Porter ( he also registered another death on the same page, which is also  devoid of parents information) He was buried 20th May in the Cemetery, Melbourne, Born Switzerland, in Victoria 13 years and marriage details recorded as unknown.

Back to the Heasman girls, I have photocopies of two of the Baptisms,
St James, Melbourne, in the year 1846, Baptized on the  16th Sept. ( in the space for the date of birth, this has not been filled in) Ann Amelia, parents William and Jane Elizabeth Heasman. Abode Melbourne, profession of father, Carpenter
At St Peters, Melbourne, in the year of 1851, Baptized June 6th, date of birth March 18 1851, Amelia, Parents, William and Jane Heasman, abode Melbourne, profession of father, Carpenter.

Aumarire.

[JAP]

...  RE:   Mary Ann HEASMAN - aged 1 - listed as passenger (with her family) on "ALEXANDER"  - arr. 1841 :
I know she is shown as "aged 1", but, is there anyway of finding out if she was in fact born "during the voyage" ?

From the shipping lists I have seen, children born on board are usually listed as such.  Forgive me, as I haven't followed your thread enough to have details of the mentioned trip, but if it was UK to Australia, by 1841 it should have taken 3-6 months max so if she was 1, I would think born before leaving.
Trish

Hello Trish,

A Mary Ann HESIMAN (sic) was bap 1843 St James Melbourne Vic Reg: 13193
As I recall, nobody has looked at that church record; perhaps it would give her date of birth (Aumarire has mentioned that she has the entries for Ann Amelia and for Amelia - date of birth given for Amelia but not for Annie).

The shipping details from the online PROV Assisted Immigrants list are:
HAISMAN (sic) William (25), Jane (22), Jane (3), Mary Ann (1), ship 'Alexander', December 1841, Book 1, Page 246.

I wonder whether anyone has access to the relevant microfiche and could look this up?  As I recall, they are held in quite a few places (including my local Genie Soc - but I'm no longer a member  ).  One set of my ancestors - STA(U)NTON indexed as STOUNSON! - arrived in Port Phillip on the 'Intrinsic' in 1841 and there was quite extensive information on the Fiche about the voyage.

We have William, Jane and Jane jnr in the 1841 census in England - but no Mary Ann, and no English birth registration has been found for her.  Like Lu, I have wondered whether Mary Ann was born on board the ship (and whether the '1' actually means '1 month') - warnings are often given of the unreliability of ages on passenger lists ...

Regards,

JAP

[Lucy2]

Hi Trish     

Many thanks for your help.

[It was naughty of me not to have included the references ... and I had to go hunting WAY back to Page 2!
Post # 25  HAISMAN (sic) family on "Alexander" 1851, and #40 - 1841 census info] :

Cheers
Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi All   

[re: Posts # 218 - 221   HEASMAN, Mary A. to Hokitika]

Have just had a look at the NZSG fiche record for Passenger Lists - VIC AUSTRALIA - Outwards and it appears the "HEASMAR" name on the PRO VIC online records, is probably a spelling error ?

Passenger Lists - Vic, Australia - outwards :

1866  (year)   No. 8084 (pass. no ?)
HEASMAN :  Mary A.     Age:  26
Status:    Single       Occupation:   not stated
Country (birth?)     UK
Accommodation:    Fore
Vessel:    "Taranaki"
Departed from:  Melbourne,    11 October 1866
Port arrived:   Hokitika (NZ)  (no date given)

[Record: PROV VPRS  -  Source: 948 - LDS Film 0284498]

Cheers

Lu

[annecaroline]

Hi

The "Alexander" arrived 24 Dec 1841 from Plymouth with 270 Bounty Immigrants-depending on which paper you look at it left England either 2nd Aug or 31st August 1841.

Is  Mortus Cardis heart disease??
I remember ages ago coming across a site which had admittance records to Melbourne Hospital back in 1860s or am I thinking of something else?Ring a bell with anyone?

Am attaching copy of the request for the orphanage-thought it might be nice for you to have

Annie

[JAP]

1. Summaries (not all details included; I'm trying to keep them up to date  but am inhibited by the 5000 character limit) are at:
* post #96 on page 7 (William HEASMAN/Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE family Part 1)
* post #144 on page 10 (Part 2)
* post #185  on page 13  (only Jane Elizabeth HEASMAN later WILKINSON later HARPER later reverted to WILKINSON)

2. The GSV (Genealogical Society of Victoria) has indexed many hospital records.  See:
http://www.gsv.org.au/Activities/indexing.htm
Admission records for Melb Hosp apparently cut out at 1860 but there are also Ward Books and these have been indexed for the relevant period.

3. Lu, do you have access to the Fiche for the Vic Assisted Passengers (for the 'Alexander')?

4. Yes, heart disease.  Apparently should read Morbus Cordis.

JAP 

[annecaroline]

Hi

Found the site I was looking for

http://www.tfoenander.com/meldeath1.htm

No mention of Mr Balli but a handy site to check out.

Annie

[JAP]

Well done Annie!

That site is mentioned on the GSV page I gave - but it's got a link to a URL which doesn't work.  Then I found another URL for it on another site but it didn't work either!  Great that you found a URL which works.

JAP