VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[JAP]

Jenn,

Well said.

Let's hope that we are not "too late".  And that the ladies haven't all just "passed by"!

JAP

[tropicalj]

Yes JAP  but unfortunatley  they  have passed "away"  lol

by  the  Sands directory  in  1923  Cecil Payne  is  living  at  the house  his  gran  has  left  him  but  not  for  long  he  is  the  at  Lidcome.  He was living at  Lidcombe  when  she  passed away  in  1919  so  one would  have  toa assume  he is a  man , but  I  didn't see him serving  in  WW1  though.

Yyou  can  understand that him being a  male  and  seemingly  the  only  living male  of Florence  he would  inherit but Jane  had a  number of children.  Who  knows  he  may  have  just been  her favourite  or  her toadied up  to  her quite nicely!!!

regards JEnn

We  will await  for  the next  segment of Annie's  it  is better  than  the Tele!

[annecaroline]

Evening Ladies

Continuing on with the Jane Elizabeth Wilkinson nee Heasman saga
 On 7 Sept 1870 two sisters were placed in the orphanage:
Florence Wilkinson aged 3yrs
Frances Wilkinson aged 6yrs
Father dead,mother unable to support

Florence left 15 Jan 1872 -noted Father formerly a clerk in Treasury Sydney -to mother's care.
Frances left 11 July 1874-noted discharged to care of her mother.

Then we have  on 16 Jan 1873
Florence Wilkinson aged 5 1/2yrs
Father Charles Wilkinson dead
Mother Jane Wilkinson has another child to support.
Florence left 7 June 1874 to her mother's care.

Note Frances still in orphanage when Florence went back in -so there is another child at home with the mother.

Now for the tricky part.
On 14 April 1870 there was application for administration of the Estate of the late Charles Wilkinson by one Jane Harper.
states
Charles Wilkinson ,late of Melbourne,Government Officer,Application by Jane Harper wife of William Thomas Harper of Sydney ,a contractor out of work.States the above named Charles Wilkinson was my late husband who departed this life Melbourne on 6 Dec 1868 ,leaving me and five children.

I found a marriage

Spouse: HARPER, William Thomas   
   Marriage Place: London
  Reg Year: 1869 Reg State: Victoria
 Ref Number: 4673

Okay now we know Jane Elizabeth had a daughter Florence ,the Florence who was in the orphanage  had a father who was dead but had been in the Treasury.This Charles  was married to a Jane and was a Government Officer.And we know they went to Melbourne-so to my way of thinking it has to be the same Jane (nee Heasman).
Only way to prove it would be to get Charles Wilkinson's death cert.

But the question is if Jane married this Harper man what happened to him and why did she die as Wilkinson?

More twists.
Annie
PS JAP -you might like to know that Caractacus Payne went bankrupt also.

[annecaroline]

Good Morning

This Charles Wilkinson has been bugging me all night,so for my own piece of mind I got up this morning and decided to down load his death cert.It is the right one who died in 1868.
Am I allowed to attach it to this site??

Annie

[tropicalj]

Hello  there Annie

Thats  a  bugging and a half.  I  have bee n  very tempted  to download George Heasmans death certificate!!

I cannot see why  you  can't pu it on  this site  you  do  see  from  time  to  time copies  of BDM's  or  part thereof.

You  could send a  PM  to  Kris,  or Grubb for verification,  or  just  put it  up  and  one of  the mods  will remove  it if not allowed

you  have done some fantastic  work  Annie. 

kind regards Jenn

[annecaroline]

Hi

Here is the death of Charles Wilkinson

Annie

[annecaroline]

Trying again

[JAP]

Oh, Annie - you are wonderful!

Just in case there are any problems, I'll quickly transcribe the gist of Charles's dc from your attachment.

*Deaths, 1868, St Kilda, Victoria
*1st Dec 1868, Fitzroy St, St Kilda
*Charles WILKINSON, Gentleman
*Male 53 years
*Inquest (7 Dec) found death was due to disease of the heart
*Father WILKINSON, a Purser on an Indiaman (father's forename and mother's name unknown)
*Informant - (signed) Jane WILKINSON, Wife, St Kilda
*Registered 7 Dec at St Kilda
*Buried at St Kilda Cemetery 9 Dec.
*Born Cheshire, lived in NSW 31 years and 3 years in Victoria
*Married in Sydney at age of 41.
*First wife's name not known or when married.  No issue from first marriage.
*Second wife's name Mary Ann MILTON, when married not known.  Issue - Charles 19(?), William 18(?)
*Wife's name Jane HEASMAN.  Issue - Rachael 11, Walter dead, Thomas Frances 4(?), Florence 1.

PS: Incidentally Annie, you are giving us a history lesson    Earlier you mentioned the Rev John Dunmore Lang and more recently you've brought the Flogging Parson himself, Rev Samuel Marsden, in ...

[JAP]

Well, like you Jenn, I've been resisting temptation re George HEASMAN's death - but couldn't any longer.

I'll post details in a minute - age and parentage are as recorded.  BUT, who is the informant, eh?

"Peder ANDERSEN - A Friend" 

So I don't believe for one moment that George's parentage is as recorded ...

JAP