VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[Lucy2]

Hi All     

Annie - that's terrific thinking!   

Wish I could help you ALL,  with these AUS searches ....  I feel so utterly useless, sitting as I am, on the other side of "THE DITCH" (NZ) !

JAP - I've just hauled out the dictionary  ....  checking  .... checking .... yes, that "p" word is fine to use !   (Keep anything "stronger", in reserve - you may still need it) !

Jenn - William in steerage  ... bother, the list doesn't tell us whether he was in shackles ? 

Cheers
Lu             

[tropicalj]

Hello  there

just  to  add in an extra  bit of trivia  (  we  need it don't we girls such a boring  thread )

there is still a  Palmer Street in Woolloomooloo  and  you will  find hotels bars etc there

regards Jenn   

[JAP]

Hi All,

Jenn, I'm trying to envisage William taking the goods from Woolloomooloo to Paddo in 1855/1856 (and Jane not noticing!!).
Horse and cart or what!  Lu, don't know whether you know this but they weren't particularly great (i.e. not classy) districts back then (fair comment, ladies?) but now things are different.  Paddington, particularly, is very trendy!  About a hundred years ago(!), I actually sailed from Woolloomooloo (always hard to get the right numbers of 'o's and 'l's) for America (well, that's how I remember it).

JAP
PS: Lu: I'll try to stick with fairly reasonable 'p' words especially 'puzzling'; 'pestiferous' was indeed a tad unkind. 
PPS: If funds permit perhaps a download of George's death and the birth of Jane Elizabeth ANDERSON might add to explanations??
Not to forget the HEASMAN/MORININI marriage just for completeness ...

[Lucy2]

Hi All   

1881 BANKRUPTCY RECORD
    ~  for John RICHINGS - Butcher - of Kaikorai,
             near Dunedin, New Zealand   :

[WARNING:  This is dead boring compared with the excitement provided by William Heasmans' antics] !

IN the Supreme Court of New Zealand - Otago and Southland District :

Declaration of Insolvency, filed 23 May 1881.

Statement of Assets:
   -   Property (estimated value) - household furniture and effects of self, wife and children (at Kaikorai)    L 15-0-0
   -   Book debts in trade                                    L 20-0-0
                                                                           
               TOTAL   L 35-0-0

CREDITORS :  (14 in all - owed a total of L 128-14-0 - Creditors list filed on 1 June 1881)

Stock and Station agents (x 3), Blacksmith, Slaughterman, Dairyman, wool merchant, butchers (x 2), Baker (owed L21-0-0, the largest amount), Hotelkeepers (x 2 - total of L5-16-0), china dealer (owed about L10-0-0) :

[Hmmm...... so the kids were eating him out of house and home judging by the baker's bill  .... and perhaps Annie had a "thing" for fine china ?]

John RICHINGS stated that "during six months last past and upwards, I have resided within the Otago and Southland district of this honorable court"  :

[If anyone is into "handwriting analysis"   ....  J. R. had a very nice, clearly written signature ~ sloping slightly to the right, reasonably bold, but with no flourishes.    The sort of writing an old-fashioned school teacher might give an A+ for ? ]

Cheers
Lu

[Lucy2]

 

Oooooh !     This Elizabeth Jane ANDERSON (1870 - 1871?) is really bugging me !

DAFT THOUGHT :      ... when the birth was registered (by whomever),  and the question of "mother's maiden name" popped up  ... this (question) is misinterpreted, AND .... the mother's "Mothers' maiden name" (AYLMORE), is given in error 

[Jane Elizabeth (the younger), may not herself (on this particular occasion), have registered the birth  ~  perhaps it was done by Peter ANDERSON ?    Or another "rellie" ?

(I'm hiding now ... in case you start throwing bricks at me)!

LU

[Cazay]

Lu   

You may have already seen this.........but, thought I would add it to the ever increasing info     as I don't think it has been mentioned.

Have to keep referring back to Jap's page 7 on the history of this family   

There was a Thomas Richens, who, along with three other men was charged with assault at Anderson's Bay (Dunedin) in October 1873 (Otago Witness 11 October 1873).  Thomas only got 6 months because it could not be proven that he had thrown a punch to the victim.

I don't think you could really 'not' investigate as there are so many twists and turns along the way.  Maybe there would be some sort of record, such as prison/gaol information as to his being at that time..........well, let's hope anyway.  A signature to compare with that lovely handwriting you have just seen perhaps?

If there is found to be another Thomas Richens in the records somewhere "across the ditch"  then maybe it can be erased.

Also, have looked at the Sand's Directory............a Charles Wilkinson, Clerk (Treasury) is living Cleveland Street Redfern in 1863.

1864 and 1865 also has him at this address but whether or not this is the Charles married to Jane ........... a bit hard to say.  Would really need to find them together on an electoral roll or to match an address from certificate etc, even to know what his occupation was. 

There are quite a few Charles Wilkinsons/Jane Wilkinsons in different suburbs and if they moved from Redfern would be harder to find.

Cazay

[annecaroline]

Hi
Hope this works- a copy of Jane's letter

Annie

[JAP]

Cazay,

More great finds!!

You'd have to suspect that this Charles WILKINSON in Cleveland St, Redfern could well be the right one - though Clerk at the Treasury sounds a bit up-market.

I guess the 1856 marriage cert of Charles WILKINSON & Jane HEASMAN would help.  And the records of their children.

A Charles WILKINSON & a Jane had, it seems:
1858 A male b & d Chippendale
1860 A female b & d Chippendale
1861 A male b Chippendale
     A Walter WILKINSON, child of the above couple, born Sydney, died aged 11 months in Victoria in 1862.
1864 A child (no name or sex) b Redfern
Redfern and Chippendale being adjacent suburbs ...
1867 Laura born Emerald Hill, Vic
Were Charles & Jane (or at least Jane) going back and forth between Sydney and Melbourne?

A child, Elizabeth Jane ANDERSON was born in 1871 in Vic, parents Peter ANDERSON & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE.  

You have to love the Thomas RICHENS punch-up!  Such fun if it is John/Thomas RICHINGS (sorry Lu!).

Lu, perhaps you can put various Oz certificates on your wish list for Santa    Though perhaps your relatives might not be too happy about what is being disclosed on this thread.

Cazay, oh dear - I'd better get to it and update my summary!  I'll never keep up with the to-ings and fro-ings otherwise.

JAP
PS: Annie, I just read the letter - it really does pull at the heartstrings, doesn't it.

[JAP]

Not surprisingly (!), my beastly summary has now exceed the maximum allowable number of characters    I guess I was expecting this to happen but ...

Expletive deleted, expletive deleted 

Anyway, I'll split it into two bits.

JAP