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« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 24 October 07 12:32 BST (UK) »
H everyone  :)

Another bit of info from Genni's great find........

Buried Wellington General Cemetery

http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/

William Heaseman died 13 May 1896 56 yrs
Harriet Jane Court died 29 August 1918 65 yrs (a photo of the headstones too)

Looks like Harriett remarried after William died.....
8140/1905 James Court/Harriett J Heasman Wellington

death - Harriett J Court 11807/1918 Wellington
Mother, Rebecca
Father, Edward K

Lu, have you thought about writing a book when all this is over............or will it be?

Cazay

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« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 24 October 07 12:45 BST (UK) »
Oh   CAZAY   :) :)

What can I say ?   More of your BRILLIANCE !
Thank you so much.

[Was just about to "slope" off to bed - we're 3 hours ahead of Oz at present - daylight saving .... so it's into the wee hours here]!   
But, spotted your incoming message .... knew it would be MORE great news from you !

Blimey  ... I don't think this will ever be finished !
And as for a book  ...  forget it !

I'VE GOT ALL YOU WONDERFUL HELPERS, LINED UP FOR A SHARE IN THE MOVIE RIGHTS TO THIS "STORY"   !

Thanks again

Kind regards
LU

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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 24 October 07 13:04 BST (UK) »
Lu

This is an amazing thread.........so intriguing, and there always seems to be something popping up in the records time and again.

So glad that we don't have daylight saving here  8)

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« Reply #102 on: Thursday 25 October 07 02:45 BST (UK) »
It is an amazing thread - especially when you think how it started with Lu asking for information about some RICHINGS people who turned out to be irrelevant.

And the thread might well have stopped with Lu's thanks at Reply #8!

But then Jenn (Reply #9) asked Lu whether there was any information Lu wanted - and that led to Lu explaining her RICHINGS/HEASMAN puzzle and now we are at Reply #102  not to mention the other thread!

I think Jenn must have been psychic to have asked that question!

Back to the genealogy.

Here's a strange entry:
ANDERSON Elizabeth Ann, born 1871 Coll, father Peter, mother Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE #8821

Was there another Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE around?  I haven't found other mentions.

"Our" Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE, 22 in 1841, would have been 52 by 1871 ...

Is there something fishy going on?

Especially given the death of 4yo George HEASMAN in Vic in 1870, parents William HEASMAN & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE.
We haven't found a birth for George, and there's a huge gap between the previous known child (Amelia bap 1851) and George ...

JAP
PS: Daylight savings starts this coming weekend in South Australia - I hate it!

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« Reply #103 on: Thursday 25 October 07 03:28 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

I  have  been  thinking about  this  thread  quite a bit  ( no  it  didn't  hurt well not too much  that is) and wonderring which  Aussie certificate  might be  the  most beneficial  if any  that is, given as  there is SO much  information  now  to  hand.

As JAP also suggests the  death  of George  in 1870  has me  the most intrigued.  Who  and where was  he  born  who  is  the informant  on  his  death certificate, where is  he  buried  (who is in  with  him)  will that  gives  us  a  clue  to  his  parents  whereabouts?

regards Jenn

(We  in  QLD  don't have daylight saving  but  it  still does  affect  quite a  few  things  for  us  northerners 8)
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« Reply #104 on: Thursday 25 October 07 04:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

That is excellent thinking.  I hadn't remotely thought of that but, as you say, a download ($A17.50) of George's death cert might provide many clues (of course it might not but I guess that's always the risk).

If only it weren't for the age of Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE, I'd be tempted to dream up the following scenario:
William HEASMAN dies (somewhere, sometime); widow Jane takes up with Peter ANDERSON; ca 1866 she has George (birth record not found) with Peter but has to record him as HEASMAN (instead of ANDERSON) because she isn't married to Peter; 1870 George dies as HEASMAN - recorded thus for the same reasons; 1871 she has Elizabeth Jane Ann with Peter - Elizabeth Jane Ann is recorded as ANDERSON either because Jane Elizabeth is by then married to Peter (but no record found) or because they lied ...

JAP
Being a night owl is why I hate daylight savings.  Added to which is the fact that our standard time is already about 1/2 hour out (i.e. we are effectively always on ds of 1/2 hour if that makes sense).  And think about the poor people living in the far West of South Australia - especially kids in the bush getting up to catch buses for the lengthy trip to school ...

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« Reply #105 on: Thursday 25 October 07 05:27 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just because a birth was registered in 1871 doesn't mean the birth took place then.  Mind you women do give birth to children in their 50's.

Stamp duty was paid if they didn't register it on time.  I know because I have a copy of a birth certificate, which was registered later.

I was thinking along the same lines as JAP with regards to Anderson/Heasman.

regards

Genni

PS: I love daylight savings, the extra daylight is great.  I'd rather have the extra light in the evening than in the morning.   



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« Reply #106 on: Thursday 25 October 07 05:57 BST (UK) »
Genni,

You were ahead of me!  It was only today that I dreamt up my scenario - after Jenn drew particular attention to George  :)

Of course a late (or late-ish) birth after a very long gap is (and was) possible - though perhaps relatively unusual at that time?  It does seem to be the most likely explanation.  And is yet another twist/turn in the saga.  If Jane Elizabeth (AYLMORE) HEASMAN truly was 22 in 1841 (census and passenger list), and especially if she is the one bap Aug 1818, then we have a pretty good handle on her age. 

Even leaving aside the fates of William HEASMAN & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE, another question seems to be what happened to Elizabeth Jane ANDERSON (birth reg Vic 1871) ...

This whole story may yet have a way to run ...

JAP
PS: I'm envious of people who like getting up early - because I'm keen on birdwatching ...

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« Reply #107 on: Thursday 25 October 07 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hi   JAP   and   Jenn   :)  :)

Goodness gracious !

Elizabeth Ann / Elizabeth Jane   ANDERSON  ???
Peter ANDERSON  ???     [Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE ... mmm  ... if the spelling had been "AYLMER" or another variation ?  But AYLMORE ?    Hmmm ?]

Oh yes, there is something "fishy" going on !   

I wish I could add something (intelligent) to the already great thinking provided by you both.

I have a theory (of sorts) but it is dependent on what happened to Charles WILKINSON, the husband of Jane Elizabeth HEASMAN (the younger).   Wonder if there might be a death record available for him ?

I just need to do a bit of working out re:  the registration areas for some of these births too.

Cheers
Lu

[PS: Will be back later in evening - need to keep my phone line free (on cruddy dial-up here) - kid is ringing from London shortly - (probably to solicit "funds" ... again) ! ]

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