VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[Lucy2]

Especially for  KEA     

Dear Stephanie

Thank you so very much for your wonderful gesture in visiting the cemetery.    That was just SO SPECIAL  !

And thanks too for your kind offer of help.  So appreciated.

Kind regards

Lu     

[Kea]

Hi all,

My pleasure Lu. This family history stuff is very addictive!

I've just seen on the NZ board in response to Lu's query about a newspaper death notice for Anni Morinini -  Jean has found a Lily Oates in the same grave as Anni ! This must be Lily Coates. I might have to pay another visit to the cemetery ...

I bet you can't keep up with all of this Lu! 

Stephanie

[JAP]

Hi Lu,

Hard to know - it's touch and go!  That is, whether the electoral roll person was John/Thomas b England 1839, or the very young (but, who knows, possibly just 21 - which, yes, I'd assume to be the voting age though I don't know) Thomas b NZ whenever.  Hey, NZ and South Australia were the earliest places with the vote for women ...  I'd love to sit down with you and go through the electoral rolls    And I'm shaking my fist at all the RICHINGSs (and MORININIs etc) sitting up on those clouds laughing at us ...

Occupations seem to be useless!  All of them seem to have been butchers at one stage.  Even in England they might have started out as butchers and then turned into farmers - as some of them obviously did.  A natural progression!  I'm a many generation Aussie but lived in England for a couple of years - our local butcher (a very superior chap) described himself as a "Butcher and Grazier".

I feel sure (   ) it will all work out in the end  

I'm off to continue watering the garden - currently allowed for 3 hours only once a week; morning or evening on Sunday for even-numbered houses, Saturday for odd-numbered houses.

JAP
PS: Stephanie/Kea, I hate to say that I tried all the 'residents' of the graves/plots and didn't see Lily OATES.  Hmmm - back to square one ...
PPS (later): Couldn't find the torch.  Went out anyway and there were very strange noises.  Thought it was probably native possums (feral Ozzie possums are pests in NZ - here our dear pretty native possums live in inner city gardens (they love eating rose petals) but admittedly do make very strange coughing, growling, etc noises - and are hated by many because they climb into rooves and nest there; I've had possums living in my roof and pee-ing down onto my grand piano!).  I made a lot of noise in case it wasn't possums but whatever it was didn't go away.  I now realize it was probably my neighbour watering his garden     I've found the torch and am about to go back out ...

[Cazay]

Hi Lu

Sorry to throw this in here when you are in the midst of John Richings findings but found this entry in the Index to Orphan Schools.

www.records.nsw.gov.au             (online indexes)

Date of Petition 18 Oct 1856

Ann Heasman 8
Rachel Heasman 6

Parents are William and Jane Heasman

Bmd index - V18463367 31A/1846 William R Heasman
V18463368 31A/1846 Ann A
Parents are William and Jane E Heasman

Consecutive numbers and would contain the same information as given in Vic records, just thought I would add it.

Cazay

[tropicalj]

Christchurch City Council Cemeteries Database
Result Detail
Surname: Oates
First name(s): Lily
Date of death: Sunday, 16 September 1917
Cemetery:  Sydenham Cemetery
Date of burial: Tuesday, 18 September 1917
Block number:  6C
Plot number:  46
Age:  43 years
Address:  199 Lyttelton St, ChCh
Occupation:  Married
Place of birth:  NZ
Years in New Zealand:  Life
 
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Christchurch City Council Cemeteries Database
Result Detail
Surname: MORININI
First name(s): ANNI
Date of death: Tuesday, 26 May 1931
Cemetery:  Sydenham Cemetery
Date of burial: Thursday, 28 May 1931
Block number:  6C
Plot number:  46
Age:  85 years
Address:  62 HOON HAY ROAD
Occupation:  WIDOW
Place of birth:  VICTORIA
Years in New Zealand:  Unknown


regards Jenn

[Lucy2]

Hi Stephanie  and   JAP    

.... yes, have just spotted Jean's message, wonder how she found that ?     Indeed, it is my Lily !     (Often wondered why she wasn't on the CCC cemeteries d/base) ?

KEA - have just PM'd you - BRILLIANT info from PapersPast - stunning work Detective Stephanie - many, many thanks.

Oh JAP  ....  I'm still laughing over your clouds comment - very good!       I'm now seeing " butchers on clouds, still stringing their sausages;  telling "porkies"  !   (Yep, it's been a long and exciting day) !   Boy, what did I do to get landed with a family like this ?

I envy you JAP - watering the garden - so therapeutic!   I'm endeavouring to work my way systematically, through all today's great information and messages ... but oh, how sleep beckons.    (Husband also turned power off for good part of the morning - electrical repairs - holiday weekend, they get carried away, blokes ;  ....no power,  no 'puter -  sure does slow a girl down) !

Thanks for your continuing help and support  ...  and look out RICHINGS ...  we're coming to get YOU !

Cheers    LU      

[Lucy2]

Dear CAZAY   

... was just on my way over to Gloucester board to "see" you .... it's been such a long day  .... and so sorry for the delay in not acknowledging your earlier brilliant efforts.   Will catch up with you shortly.

Wow !    This latest HEASMAN info ... oh my goodness!
It's looking a tad, sad !      (Absolutely fine to throw it in here  ... it's the RICHINGS - HEASMAN - RICHINGS, ROUNDABOUT ....  and others will enjoy seeing this).

ANOTHER WONDERFUL FIND Cazay!    Thank you so very much.

Kind regards

Lu   


 

[JAP]

Hello Cazay,

That's a great find on the Orphan Index.

We have (see earlier in the thread) births for children of William HEASMAN & Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE.

Including:
*William Richard 1846 St James.
*Ann Amelia 1846 St James (possibly Annie who m Alexander MORININI in 1862).
*Rachel 1848 St James (and her two marriages and children to them) plus further info including Rachel's death (as Rachel PARKIN in 1938, Kew).
*Amelia 1851 St Peters ...

Lu, there is obviously more of this convuluted story to unravel.

JAP
PS: Therapeutic watering!  Well, perhaps so were it by choice.  But when it's courtesy of vile watering restrictions (while people are still allowed to fill spas and pools; and irrigators are still allowed to irrigate greedy crops like rice and cotton - in Australia!) it is traumatic rather than therapeutic 

[JAP]

That was a brilliant find i.e. Lily OATES (sic) in the same grave as Anni (sic) MORININI.

As far as I can recall, although we've all assumed that Thomas RICHINGS (b ca 1872) and Lily RICHINGS (b ca 1874) are children of John RICHINGS & Annie (HEASMAN) MORININI, the sole documented RICHINGS/MORININI link prior to this find was that the addresses on the death certificates of Annie MORININI (1931) and Thomas RICHINGS (1958) were identical.

Now there are, in the same grave, Annie (HEASMAN) MORININI and her presumed daughter Lily 'OATES' (Lily RICHINGS already known to have married Francis COATES in 1901, and to have died in 1917).  Fantastic.

I wonder whether there would be anything more to be found out e.g. a record of who purchased the plot etc etc.

Apparently, for a small fee, the Christchurch City Libraries will do a genealogical search for persons buried in various cemeteries including Sydenham.
See:
http://www.ccc.govt.nz/Parks/Cemeteries/Genealogical.asp

JAP