VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please

[JAP]

This looks like the death of William Thomas HARPER.

William Thomas HARPER, born BIRM (remember, BIRMINGHAM was his birthplace at his 1869 marriage to Jane WILKINSON), age 26, father Thomas, mother Annie STRINGA, died 1871 Victoria, #9037

William Thomas HARPER, bap 2 Apr 1845, Bordesley Warwickshire, parents Thomas HARPER & Anne (IGI).
Thomas HARPER marriage, Mar qtr 1843, Aston an Ann STRINGER on the same page

JAP

[tropicalj]

Also  

trying  to  think  aloud  will a  download  of  one of the Heasmans  girls  marriage  in  Victoria  reveal  anything  more than  what we  know...  it  might  if  either parent is a witness at  the  marriage  I  quess.

Another query  girls  especially  you Annie  would a suicide  by William  heasman  still be recorded  as a death  in NSW  in 1855?

Jenn

[annecaroline]

If William committed suicide it wouldn't be on BMDs in 1855.This is before registration started and prior to this deaths are based on church burials.I don't think the church would bury him as in those days not only was suicide a crime it was also a sin.

Did you notice on Charles Wilkinson's death it stated only 3yrs in Vic?This would make it c 1865.We know they were in Vic when Walter died -yet we have a unnamed child born in Sydney(Thomas?)in 1864.
All the other Heasman sisters were marrying in Vic prior to 1865 so do we assume that the Wilkinsons stayed in Sydney and only were visiting Vic when Walter died.
If so and remember Jane Wilkinson was basically the guardian of them why would the sister's leave Sydney for Melbourne.There has to be a very strong reason and I think they rejoined their parents.

After Charles Wilkinson died Jane remarried in Vic the following year.A year later she returns to Sydney -was this to make the claim on Charles's estate?The papers don't state the value but it couldn't of been much as a few short months later if Florence and Frances belong to her she puts them in the Orphanage.

It must of not worked out with Mr Harper otherwise why keep calling herself Wilkinson and where did she get the money to buy a house in Rozelle.She wasn't living there in 1903.
I also found dau Rachel dying in 1891 -no sign of young Thomas yet
Annie

[annecaroline]

Hi
Just found this message on Rootsweb mailing list -Wilkinson dated 2004-this is the son of Charles

Looking for information on, as well as descendants of, Charles Fletcher Wilkinson who married Catherine Angus/Agnus Anderson at Balranald in 1873. Charles parents were Charles Snr. (possibly a convict) and Mary A Milton (a convict).
Charles and Catherine's children were:
Elizabeth Janet R b. 1880 m. Paul Wright Fearby
Edith b. 1875
Charles Reid b. 1876
Agnus Rachel b. 1879
William Reid b. 1880
Joan Middleton b. 1883
Mary Reid b. 1883

[Cazay]

There is a Mary Anne Milton age 31 who arrived 1838 on the John Renwick, birthplace was Devonshire and she was a Needleworker/child's maid.

Would be interesting to find a permission to marry, especially to a Charles Wilkinson.

Cazay

[JAP]

That's all this saga needed.  Convicts!!

Mary Anne MILTON got her certificate of freedom, 28 June 1845.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=19

Is this a possible convict record for Charles WILKINSON?

Charles WILKINSON, arr 1838 on the 'Westmoreland', got his certificate of freedom, 28 Aug 1845.

On Charles's death cert at age 53 in 1868, Jane said he'd been in NSW for 31 years (did she know exactly?) and Vic for 3 years - which would give an arrival date at age ca 19 in roughly 1834.  So this would roughly fit.

JAP

[annecaroline]

They are not listed in the Permission to Marry index just checked.
They married 1846 and the cert of Freedom was 1845 so they both both be free by then.

Annie

[JAP]

Hi Annie,

Of course!  Should have thought of that!

But it's getting very suspicious, isn't it, that "our" Charles WILKINSON was the convict Charles WILKINSON?

Might his first marriage have been when he was still a convict?  Or before he was transported (given that his age might have been quite approximate)?

As Lu once said, this thread has more twists and turns than your average snake.

Next question is to find whether the convict Charles WILKINSON came from Cheshire - Charles's birthplace on this death cert ...

I'm getting even grumpier than I already was that the St Kilda Cemetery records are no longer accessible.  Not to mention that Melbourne General Cemetery records never have been.

Regards,

JAP

[Cazay]

From the Irish Transportation Database.........the Charles Wilkinson on the Westmoreland 1838 was tried in Dublin City and transported for 7 yrs - felony waistcoat and two other articles. Age was 18.

Wondering if this might be the first marriage........

V18381632 22/1838 Charles Wilkinson/Louisa D Wiles Sydney St James

Death:
V18465 31B/1846 Louisa D Wilkinson age 27

Charles married Mary A Milton in 1846

Cazay