Heathfield Parish Registers

[sue9]

Hi Alan

I'm struck on Thomas and Katherine Mascall cant find a marriage - there is a Thomas born around 1705 to Richard Mascall and Elizabeth Walter at Heathfield.
There are several marriages on SMI for a Thomas none to a Katherine (so was Katherine her bpt name)
I cant find the deaths of Thomas or Katherine Mascall?  can anyone help!
I have the will of Richard Mascall there is a Thomas is in the will.
I cant find a will for Thomas Mascall but I do have the will of Jonadab Mascall.
Regards
Sue

[teralba]

Thanks Sue and Kerry.

I'm not much help I'm afraid. I'll be changing my subscription back in March, but I guess that will just give me access to internet sources you already have.

Keep me in mind - there is always the possibility that I could help with Australian queries if any of your people have gone that far astray. As a first generation Australian on both sides I haven't actually had to work with local resources, but I am a lot closer.

Regards

Alan

[sue9]

Hi Alan

My gr. grandparents died in Australia could be have a look around and see if you can find some dates for me.
Benjamin Mascall (Maskell) born 1864 in Heathfield East Sussex and his wife Elizabeth Ruth born 1865. One of their sons Charles Ernest Maskell married in 1929 and on the newpaper cutting it stated that Mr & Mrs B. Maskell of Marrickville, New South Wales.
I dont know what year for my gr. grandparents went to Australia - my mum never knew her Maskell grandparents.
Regards
Sue

[teralba]

Hi Sue

In the very near future (a few days) I'll be subscribing to a service that gives me access to some Australian databases and I'll see what I can find. We have a predicted 44 degrees Celsius today (111 degrees F), and my action plan is to spend the day in an air conditioned computer centre, so I'll see what can be accessed without subscription.

As I indicated earlier, I haven't actually had to look at Australian sources before (my parents were both immigrants to Australia), so allow a little time for my learning curve.

In a previous post responding (in part) to you I said:

"Sue,
Jonadab Mascal and Catherine Gurr must be my 5xgr grandparents as well as yours. If I'm reading an internet consanguinity table correctly, this makes us sixth cousins!"

I'm guessing (well, it's not too hard) that Benjamin is either a descendant of Jonadab or at least related, and at some point I'd love to get the intermediate connections.

More soon

Alan

[teralba]

Hi Sue.

A preliminary result which doesn't add much.

There was a death notice in the Sydney Morning Herald 22/4/1940 MASKELL, Elizabeth Ruth. No detail available, but the index entry says she died 20/4/1940 aged 74. That sounds like your Elizabeth Ruth.

The NSW government site www.bdm.nsw.gov.au /familyHistory has a death and a marriage in the relevant index.

The death is MASKELL Elizabeth Ruth, ref 12881/1940, Father William, Mother Mary [no surnames given], district Marrickville. Certificates can be bought at that website, and the cost is $AUD27.00 (somewhere around $US19, no idea where we stand with Euros at the moment).

The marriage looks like the one you mention: reference 15953/1928 MASKELL Charles E to SAUNDERSON Vera A, Auburn NSW. Certificates available in the same way and at the same savage cost.

Shipping looks harder at this stage. We will need some timings I think. I guess the earliest Benjamin would have migrated would be the early 1880s, and theoretically the latest is 1928. Did Benjamin and Elizabeth marry in England, or did he meet her here...and if the former, do we know if Charles was born there or here. The site above allows the birth index to be checked up to 1908, and there is no birth for Charles 1880-1908, at least in NSW.

I realise the questions implied above are probably the very ones that you hope to answer of course. I'll keep chipping away quietly.

Alan

[sue9]

Hi Alan

Thanks so much for Elizabeth Ruth Maskell death.
Her father was William Slarks and mother Mary Goldsmith she was born 1863 in Waldron East Sussex.
Charles Ernest Maskell married Vera Saunderson in 1929 (he was their youngest surviving son)
I did meet Charles Ernest (Uncle Ernie) in the 1960s when he came over to see his brother my granddad.
My mum thinks that Uncle Ernie and Uncle Frank joined the Australia Navy in WW1 and decided to live in Australia after the war and they send for their parents to come over - my granddad would not go because he had a young family.
In my Mascall tree I have two lots of Mascalls marrying Muggridge.
Harriett Mascall married George Muggridge in Heathfield 6/2/1832
Ann Mascall married Richard Muggridge in Heathfield 23/10/1780
I'm not sure if Richard and George are connected. On George Muggrige marriage cert. witness was a William Muggridge.
I will send you PM.
Hope its not to hot for you - they say we are going to get snow in the next few days!!!
Regards
Sue

[teralba]

Hi Sue.

I was just working out where your George might fit when I noticed an anomaly in my own data layout; on close inspection I may have mucked something up rather badly. Please bear with me over the weekend and I'll sort it out. I don't want to post something and drag everyone else into confusion with me.

Alan

[kerryb]

Hi Chris

Would you mind looking up for the name Oliver?

Kerry

[Chris in 1066Land]

Kerry

Is this what you were looking for

1661 Bapt   23 Feb   Jane the daughter of Joseph Oliver
1665 Bapt   30 Apr   William the son of Jos Oliver
1669 Bapt   4 July   Nicholas the son of Joseph Oliver (BT says by Mary his wife)
1672 Bapt   12 Mch   John the son of Joseph Oliver by Mary his wife
1676 Bapt   4 June   Thomas the son of Joseph Oliver by Mary his wife
1696 Bapt   28 May   Elizabeth the daughter of William Oliver by Elizabeth his wife
1698 Bapt   18 Sep   Josias the son of John Oliver (BT by Jone his wife)
1698 Bapt   11 Dec   Thomas the son of William Oliver?
1700 Bapt   27 Feb   John the son of John Oliver by Ann his wife
1703 Bapt   2 Apr   Ann the daughter of John and Ann Oliver
1703 Bapt   15 Dec   William the son of William and Elizabeth Oliver
1727 Bapt   17 Feb   Joseph the son of Joseph and Mary Oliver
1730 Bapt   1 July   Mary the daughter of Joseph and Mary Oliver
1731 Bapt   10 Oct   Thomas the son of Joseph and Mary Oliver
1735 Bapt   25 Dec   John the son of Joseph Oliver by Mary his wife
1740 Bapt   14 Aug   David the son of Joseph Oliver by Mary his wife

Chris in 1066