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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #99 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Chris

I can tick off Heathfield then, they must have married elsewhere.

Kerry  :)
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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #100 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Stovepipe

I have Elizabeth Harmer who married William Upfield baptised at Heathfield on 2 May 1777.

Do you have details of William's birth or baptism?

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris

Thanks so much for the info on the Parsons -
When you get time please dont spoil your dinner - can you check the marriages for me (Thomas and Elizabeth)
I have the SMI but not sure who is who!
My hubby in the kitchen cooking my dinner - bless him.
I also have Harmers in my tree and also my neice is marrying a Harmer in Dec in Alfriston.
Best regards
Sue

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #102 on: Saturday 17 November 07 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Kerry i have Harmers (my tree is like a map of Sussex names!)

some of my Harmers are in rotherfield and others in Hurstmoncaux



Toni

Our 'maps' must be quite similar.

Maybe we should get together sometime, we seem to be meeting up on every name!!! ::) ::)

I've got quite a lot of Harmers on my tree now, some from Herstmonceux but not all checked which is what I'm starting to do, my other gran was a Harmer from Dallington with a long ancestry back to the old Heathfield Harmers.

Kerry

i can't spell Herstmonceux spell it differently every time!

most of my Harmer info. is unchecked also.

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #103 on: Saturday 17 November 07 18:48 GMT (UK) »

I have Elizabeth Harmer who married William Upfield baptised at Heathfield on 2 May 1777.

Do you have details of William's birth or baptism?


Hi Kerry,

I've nothing on William Upfield's birth/baptism so far.  I have his will and know from the grant that he died 22 November 1840.  A death registered at Hailsham in Q4 1840 is probably his, but the index around that time doesn't give age at death (as you know).  An accurate (big assumption that) age at death on the certificate would give me his year of birth (obviously) but just now my budget doesn't stretch to buying it.

His will names his children, including a few who pre-deceased him, and what I know about them fits very well with him marrying Elizabeth in 1795.  A number of Harmers are mentioned in the will (witnesses and the married surname of one of William's daughters).

His wife Elizabeth was alive when he made his will in 1832 but had died before early November 1840 when a codicil was added.  I've not found an entry in the civil registration index for Elizabeth's death - she may well have died before 1837 with the addition of the codicil being prompted by William's imminent demise, not hers.

As Elizabeth Harmer was a minor when she married in 1795, the baptism at Heathfield in 1777 looks very much like hers.  Were the parents Joseph & Elizabeth?

The additional information on Chris's marriage data (viz. "md 1766") now causes me to doubt that the 1775 Burwash marriage of Joseph Harmer and Elizabeth Cane is that of the parents of William Upfield's wife.  This is especially so when Joseph's surname is read as "Jarman" - the misreading is possible, but then "Jarman" isn't too unusual a name, so could just as well be right.

One day I'll visit ESRO and check all this stuff for myself.

Thanks for your interest, and all the help you've given me in the past.

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #104 on: Saturday 17 November 07 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stovepipe

I shall put your message on pile to look at.

I have a note on the marriage that says 'this needs checking, the contact was convinced it must be them but I would like to check for myself because Jarman is a local name I think.

Sorry I totally missed the bit about Elizabeth's parents being married 1766!  Must slow down and read things properly.  If they were married 1766 it is unlikely to be the Joseph baptised 1753 wouldn't it. 

Certainly no marriage on the SMI of a Jos* Harmer in 1766.  Hmm  Another to add to the list for ESRO.

I must get along there one day too.  Soon

Kerry
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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #105 on: Saturday 17 November 07 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kerryb

Here are your Heathfield Burials for the surname Harmer between 1612 and 1753

1616 Buried 14 Dec   Sarah the wife of  John Harmer labourer
1617 Buried 2 May Sarah the daughter of John Harmer a child
1622 Buried 11 Nov   John Harmer
1622 Buried 20 Feb   Francis Harmer the son of widow Harmer
1642 Buried 29 Apr Thomas Harmer
1652 Buried 7 Oct Jonas the son of Anthony Harmer
1661 Buried 30 Apr   Mergery the daughter of William Harmer
1696 Buried 26 Mch   Daniel Harmer
1696 Buried 7 May Joseph Harmer
1715 Buried 17 May   John Harmer senior (BT says he was a pauper)
1716 Buried 25 Nov Susannah Harmer widow
1718 Buried 15 May   Richard Harmer (2nd page says from Arlington)
1718 Buried 8 Aug Anne the wife of Joseph Harmer
1721 Buried 2? Apr   Elizabeth the wife of John Harmer (BT has 28 Apr)
1723 Buried 13 Feb   Joseph Harmer senior
1724 Buried 2 May widow Harmer
1738 Buried 4 Oct John Harmer
1741 Buried 2 Dec Margaret Harmer
1741 Buried 29 Dec   Thomas Harmer
1743 Buried 29 Dec   John Harmer
1747 Buried 13 Dec   Mary Harmer the widow
1749 Buried 25 Mch   Elizabeth Harmer widow aged 95
1749 Buried 9 Jan Joseph Harmer (church-warden and parish book keeper)

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #106 on: Saturday 17 November 07 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Chris

I'm going to be busy now.  I just picked up my file of Harmer info and pages I printed from A2A some time ago.  Interesting lot the Harmers.  I have one who brought a court case again Sir William Pelham who has previously given a house and land at Burwash to his father and grandfather and then decided to take it away. 

Another one was executed in 1572 along with the wife of a man from Warbleton that together they murdered.

I'm going to enjoy researching this family I think  ;D

Kerry
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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #107 on: Friday 23 November 07 22:04 GMT (UK) »

Hello Chris - please could you check the Baptisms and Burials for these two surnames - Coman/Colman/Coleman and Bridger.

Many thanks

Suey
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