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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #90 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi agian Kerryb

The 1582 to 1613 Registers contain all 3 events - so I have written them down as they came up on the electronic search.

1599 Buried 10 Apr   Richard Harmer
1600 Buried 18 Oct   John Harmer
1600 Buried 18 Dec   Margeret Woodam the servant of Richard Harmer
1600 Bapt 11 Oct Frances Harmer the son of Richarde Harmer
1610 Married 28 Jan John Harmer of Hellingly and Sara Wickenden of this parish
1612 Married 27 Apr Retorne Harmer and Joane Bucher

Well, wasnt a lot was there

Kerry, as you can get all the marriages off your copy of the Sussex Marriage Index, that now just leaves me the burials between 1613 and 1753

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #91 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Kerry i have Harmers (my tree is like a map of Sussex names!)

some of my Harmers are in rotherfield and others in Hurstmoncaux


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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #92 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris

Thank you very much, that's given me something to do tomorrow afternoon  ;D You are very kind

How odd that there was a gap, there were, according to my tree some Harmers born during this period.  Hmm

While I'm here can you check a marriage for a John Harmer and Elizabeth? which should be 1701 in Heathfield according to my records sent to me.  I couldn't find it on the sussex marriage index although there is a Canterbury Marriage Licence in 1702 for a John from Effell and I wondering if that is the one. 

Thank you and very very much appreciated

Ooh I've just crossed with another message, thank you again

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #93 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stovepipe

Yes, you are correct, he did marry an Elizabeth Harmer

Location: Heathfield, East Sussex,  Date:  6 Apr 1795:
Groom: William UPFIELD,
Bride: Elizabeth HARMER, with consent of parents Jos.& Eliz. md 1766
Both of this parish

looking at Kerryb's list, there was a Joseph Harmer baptized in 1753, could be a connection?

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #94 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Kerry i have Harmers (my tree is like a map of Sussex names!)

some of my Harmers are in rotherfield and others in Hurstmoncaux



Toni

Our 'maps' must be quite similar.

Maybe we should get together sometime, we seem to be meeting up on every name!!! ::) ::)

I've got quite a lot of Harmers on my tree now, some from Herstmonceux but not all checked which is what I'm starting to do, my other gran was a Harmer from Dallington with a long ancestry back to the old Heathfield Harmers.

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #95 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Stovepipe

Cor Chris is on top form tonight, I can't keep up with him.  Yes I have William Upfield and Elizabeth Cane on my tree, not directly descended from those two but they are there, is there any thing I can help with?

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #96 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stovepipe

Yes, you are correct, he did marry an Elizabeth Harmer

Location: Heathfield, East Sussex,  Date:  6 Apr 1795:
Groom: William UPFIELD,
Bride: Elizabeth HARMER, with consent of parents Jos.& Eliz. md 1766
Both of this parish

looking at Kerryb's list, there was a Joseph Harmer baptized in 1753, could be a connection?

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According to my tree Joseph Harmer baptised in 1753 and his wife Elizabeth Cane were this Elizabeth Harmer's parents.  The Sussex Marriage Index had this Elizabeth Cane married to a Joseph Jarman but this is believed to be either a mistranscription or was misheard and it should be Jospeh harmer.  They married in burwash on 16 April 1775. 

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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #97 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Kerryb

Have checked the marriage transcripts for you

There were only 3 marriages in 1700, 4 in 1701 and 2 in 1702 (bishops transcripts only) - but sorry, there are no Harmers listed.

So this time,I cant help you

Sorry about that

I have just checked the burials and I believe there are 23 listed - will do them after dinner
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Re: Heathfield Parish Registers
« Reply #98 on: Saturday 17 November 07 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Chris,

That's brilliant! - thanks so much.  And great information about consent from named parents too - but if I take "md 1766" to be the year of marriage of Jos. & Eliz., would I be right?  It means the baptism of Joseph in 1753 was rather late for someone married just 13 years later.  Of course the 1753 baptism may have been some cousin or other of Elizabeth's father.

Thanks again,
Stovepipe

PS I think Kerry may have answered the question - just need to check the Harmer/Jarman reading in an image of the register sometime.  And check the dates.
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