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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 04 October 07 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone  :)

Harriet Ann Rogers was born 9th March 1863
parents Thomas Rogers Railway Labourer & Ann Williams.
Address 13, Drayton Buildings, Shrewsbury.
Sub district of St Mary in the County of Salop.

As I said I have Harriet on the 1871 and 1881 but not with her parents.
Her parents seem to have vanished, or died  ???

Thank you for all your help.

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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 04 October 07 15:12 BST (UK) »
So - if you don't have them in 1861 either, where do you have Thomas' birth place from?

Can you give us Ann's birth year & birth place?  :)

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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 04 October 07 16:38 BST (UK) »
I know this doesn't explain why we cannot find Thomas or Ann on the 1861 but I have found a couple of possible deaths.

THOMAS ROGERS born about 1839 death June q. 1866 Shrewsbury 6a - 488

ANN ROGERS  death Sept q. 1865 Shrewsbury 6a - 428


What does anyone think  ???
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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 04 October 07 16:55 BST (UK) »
Another to ponder over    :-\

1861 RG9/1888/14/3

Rag Lane, Prees, Shropshire.

THOMAS T. ROGERS h.m. 22 Bricklayer b Hadnall, Shropshire
ANNIE  wife 21 b Prees, Shropshire 
John Rogers visitor 26 Carepenter B Hadell
Hannah visitor 20 b Prees.
           
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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 04 October 07 17:25 BST (UK) »
Shame Thomas isn't a Railway lab, eh!

Let's see if Ann's details match  :D
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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 04 October 07 17:40 BST (UK) »
I thought it more than possible for a brickie labourer to become a railway labourer, there not that far apart  ;D 

But as you say maybe Ann details will fit if Pettsy has them.  :-\
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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 04 October 07 17:52 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone  :)

I am getting so confused now, so had to get all my notes out  :-[

Okay I do have the marriage cert for Thomas & Ann, which gives theirs ages.

I then looked for their births, I found two Ann Williams.

1) June Q 1840 Shrewsbury 18 171
2) Sept Q 1840 Shrewsbury 18 157

I guess she is the first entry as someone found her birth and bpt which was 25th July 1840 bpt 16th Aug 1840.
I think it was IGI.

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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 04 October 07 18:28 BST (UK) »
I thought it more than possible for a brickie labourer to become a railway labourer, there not that far apart  ;D 

But as you say maybe Ann details will fit if Pettsy has them.  :-\



Brickies served a 7 year apprentice, I would think a railway labourer would have maintained the rails etc......
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Re: Birth & census help, which Thomas
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 04 October 07 18:50 BST (UK) »
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Brickies served a 7 year apprentice


I dident know that, I was clucthing at straws I suppose, what do you think Of the deaths  ??? it would explain why she is living with her grandparents in 1871 and 1881  :-\
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