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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 23:29 GMT (UK) »
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Benjamin Wolfe (who died in 1841, Deal, baptised in Deal)

I had another look at the registers today - there was another Benjamin, baptised at Gt Mongeham on 9th May 1830, buried 6th June 1832.

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Caroline Elizabeth (who Casalguidi found through IGI for me, but can not trace her in 1841 census, so possibly she died, who is meant to have been baptised in Great Mongeham according to the IGI)

Caroline Elizabeth was baptised at Gt Mongeham on 30th September 1832, buried 12th March 1836.

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Charles (who according to someone with some Deal parish extracts was baptised at St Leonards 21 Feb 1841)

That is correct - found it today - Charles GOODBAND.

Stephen was buried at Gt Mongeham (from Deal) on 11th December 1845, aged 42.

The surname appears variously in the records as GOODBAN, GOODBAND, GOODBORN & GOODBOURN (same families), so I would not discount GOODBURN either in your searches.

Still no sign of the baptism of Stephen c.1803 or their marriage c.1825.

I'm still looking!

Bill
Banks, Beer, Bowes, Castle, Cloak, Coachworth, Dixon, Farr, Golder, Graves, Hicks, Hogbin, Holmans, Marsh, Mummery, Nutting, Pierce, Rouse, Sawyer, Sharp, Snell, Willis: mostly in East Kent.
Ey, Sawyer: London
Evans: Ystradgynlais, Wales
Snell: Snettisham, Norfolk
Knight, Burgess, Ellis: Hampshire
Purdy: Ireland/Canada/Durham/Pennsylvania
McCann: Ireland
Morrow: Pennsylvania
Sparnon: any
Beers, Heath, Conyers, Miller, Russell, Larson, Clark, Sibert, Hopper, Reinhart: USA

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 24 January 08 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Ooohh that is interesting, I did think there was a bit of a gap between Amelia and Caroline and that possibly there could be other children, so that now confirms that.

Thank you for the information on Caroline, that explains her.

That's interesting that Stephen was taken back to Great Mongeham to be buried, makes me wonder if he had very strong family roots there or something that he wanted to be buried there or they chose to, as that is not normal is it?

Wonder why there is still no records of the marriage or his baptism. I guess if they got married in her parish, then that could be why, which is still not confirmed.

Will have a look around for the variation of names as you suggested.

Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

Regards Gary

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I have a possible breakthrough or possibly not, so be interested to see what you guys think.

I took my girlfriend up to Whitstable for a couple of days for valentine's break and whilst there we decided to pop in the Canterbury cathedral for a couple of hours (have other rellies who came from Whitstable, who we wanted to look up a couple of details on). Anyway whilst there I thought I would look at the Great Mongeham parish records, to see if there were anything else in them, that may help.

Well interestingly I came across the other family that you referred to previously Bill as being from Great Mongeham (sorry don't know how to do quotes).

This was Thomas Goodban (Goodburn) & his wife Susanne Newing, they had 10 children, of which one of those was Edward born 1803 (again can't quote, but Bill you mentioned him being on the 1851 census, born in Great Mongeham). I noted from the parish records that Thomas & Stephen both used to go and claim their poor relief together and I did wonder if there was a connection between the two of them somehow even though Thomas is twenty years older then Stephen. Sadly not other additonal information to be found regarding Stephen, except that he refused to do a job as he wanted to do another one LOL.

Upon our return I checked the census records for Thomas & his wife (as he did not die till 1860) and from there I found that he was originally from Minster, Kent. I contacted someone with the Minster, Thanet parish records and she came back with the following:

Thomas Goodburn born 12/04/1783, baptised 27/04/1783 son of Thomas & Ann Goodburn (this ties in with his marriage, death and census records that his year of birth would be circa 1783).

Stephen Goodbourn born 02/02/1803, baptised 06/03/1803 son of John & Jane Goodbourn.
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]I asked her to check for a possible baptism record for Stephen as my thought was if that Thomas came from Minster, so too did possibly Stephen.

Do you think this could be my elusive Stephen?? Sadly she said there was no record of a marriage for him in Minster, so still at a mystery as to where he married Mary Ann. Is there any way I can confirm this is my Stephen?

So Thomas moved from Minster to Great Mongeham, married his wife who came from Ripple there and died there. This Stephen if he is mine, moved from Minster to Great Mongeham to Deal, to eventually be buried back at Great Mongeham.

Sadly were only at Whitstable for two days, so only had time to drive through Deal and not any time to stop and look around, so that will have to be another visit one day.

Hope it all makes sense. Regards Gary[/color]

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 28 February 08 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gary

If we can eventually find the marriage, that might help, but otherwise it's going to be difficult to prove he's the right one.  Looks like a pretty good bet, though!

Pity you didn't have more time to explore Deal - it's a lovely little place, and Mongeham is right on the edge of the town.

Bill
Banks, Beer, Bowes, Castle, Cloak, Coachworth, Dixon, Farr, Golder, Graves, Hicks, Hogbin, Holmans, Marsh, Mummery, Nutting, Pierce, Rouse, Sawyer, Sharp, Snell, Willis: mostly in East Kent.
Ey, Sawyer: London
Evans: Ystradgynlais, Wales
Snell: Snettisham, Norfolk
Knight, Burgess, Ellis: Hampshire
Purdy: Ireland/Canada/Durham/Pennsylvania
McCann: Ireland
Morrow: Pennsylvania
Sparnon: any
Beers, Heath, Conyers, Miller, Russell, Larson, Clark, Sibert, Hopper, Reinhart: USA


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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 28 February 08 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bill

So looks like I will have to eventually check every single town/parish in Kent at this rate for the marriage LOL, but if that is him then may be closer to finding their marriage maybe, if only could work out exactly where she was born that may be the clue.

It was a shame, but we will plan a longer trip there hopefully sometime this year. Especially if do manage to find out more about Stephen & Mary Ann then be interesting to see their home towns too.

Regards Gary

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 08 May 10 21:41 BST (UK) »
An old request so you may well have it by now but, if not, Stephen GOODBURN married Mary Ann WOLFE at Sandwich St Mary 31 Oct 1825 http://www.familysearch.org (select Record Search Pilot)

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 12:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you Casalguidi, I had put the family tracing to one side for a while as other priorities came up, so NO I didn't have that information. Thank you that is great help and ties in with the other information that I thought maybe Stephen Goodban was born in Minster, not Great Mongeham or Deal and looking on map that is close to Sandwich, so looks like they may both be from around that area. Thanks again, will investigate this line further now when I get time, thanks again for all yours and Bill's help.

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Re: Deal Parish Lookup if possible please - updated with more information
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 10 July 11 17:13 BST (UK) »
From the Parish Records:

Children of Stephen & Mary Ann GOODBAN, Labourer. Dates are of Baptism, not Birth.

18 Mar 1835   Benjamin Wolfe GOODBAN    at Castle Row      St George's
15 Mar 1835   Henry Rolfe GOODBAN              Castle Row       St Leonard's
  6 Oct 1837   Stephen Arthur GOODBAN         Lower Road      St Leonard's
21 Feb 1841  Charles GOODBAND                   Cannon Street  St Leonard's
22 May1846   Frances Maria GOODBAN           Lower Street     St Leonard's

Hope this helps

Aj