Hedley Family Search

[BoHedley]

Dear Valda.

I found this one , you quote, on BMD but don't quite understand your question "What information did John give on his father"

There was no information about John's father on this marriage entry.  Are you suggesting I could find some if I sent for marriage certificate giving these BMD volume/page sources.

Regards,
Liz

[Valda]

John would give his father's name and his occupation on his marriage certificate which would confirm or eliminate the possibility that his father was called William and a filesmith.

With the GRO index reference for the marriage you can purchase the certificate online from the General Registry Office.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Regards

Valda

[BoHedley]

Dear Valda,
Yes- this is obviously my next route - otherwise nothing further on can be proved and I am still going round in circles with William and Jane after 1841.
With thanks,
Lizian

[billie]

I also am researching the Hedley family of Newburn. I am related to William Hedley father of Puffing Billy and his wife Elizabeth Fletcher. I have a fair amount of information. Billie

[BoHedley]

Dear Billie,
Thank you for reply but I am now fairly sure that our Hedley line does not go through "William Puffing Billy".

My mother used to tell us about him and described him as a 'famous relative'.  When I traced the Hedleys back to Newburn eg. William 1812 born Newburn,filesmith -
 maried to Jane? I thought she may be right.  But going further it went to a Richard Hedley 1788, husbandman - married to Alice Hudson.

if you have any of these names in your tree I would be very interested to view as they may be relatives.  However Hedley appears to be a fairly common name in that area and Newburn was bigger than I thought.

I have my William Hedley's known siblings as John and Robert and his children as John(1832), Richard and Alice.

Whoever they were - they are all very interesting to discover.

Thanks again from Bo in Suffolk

[billie]

Richard hedley married to Alice Hudson was the brother of my gggg grandfather Thomas. Richard and Alice had 3 children....William born 1812, Elizabeth born 1814 and died in 1818 and George born in 1818. Alice and Richard were married 05 August 1811...alice's father was William Hudson and mother was Hannah Hargrave. Thomas was the second son of William Hedley and Elizabeth Fletcher. William was married to Jane Atkinson and they had a son named Joseph. William the had a child with Ann Atkinson and that child was William aka Puffing Billy. He then Married Elizabeth Flethcher and they had 8 children.
If you require any information please let me know...Billie

[BoHedley]

Dear Billie,
Wow! thanks for all that info - I have been trying to match it up with what I have and am getting more and more confused.  Would you mind if I asked you a few questions about the info you gave?
I have the Richard married to Alice Hudson as the father of William Hedley (1812) so Elizabeth 1814 and George 1818 were his siblings?? (If so I have the wrong ones)

Then I had this William (1812) married to a Jane ?  Is this the Jane Atkinson you mention.  Did he then marry her sister Ann?

I then have William (1812 having son John(1832) Richard and Alice.  John married Caroline Bradly and produced my great grandfather Thomas Hedley 1864 and born Sheffield.

We obviously have Richard and Alice Hudson in common but am confused from then on.

Reading your info I got totally lost on the dates because William of Puffing Billy was born 1779 and married a Frances Dodds (according to written biography) so thought he must be a relative of Richard (1788)

Could you possibly give me the dates of the people you mention as there are so many Williams and Thomas's etc.

Many thanks in anticipation from Bo in Suffolk.
   

[billie]

William Sr was born prior to 1753. He married Jane Atkinson 1774 and they had a son Joseph born 1773. He died in 1843. I think that Jane died and he then had a son with Ann Atkinson who was his mistress. That son was William aka Puffing Billy. That William married Frances Dodds. William sr then married Elizabeth Fletcher in September 1784. Their first child was George  in 1785 and he probably died. Then came Thomas born in 1786. He was my gggg grandfather. Then came John born in 1788. After John came Richard who married Alice Hudson on the 05 August 1811. After Richard was George who was born in 1792 and died in July 1819. Then came Mary, Elizabeth and Jeremiah.
I found William and Alice on the 1841 census with children Alice, John and Richard. On the 1851 census, I found the family spelled healey and William is a filecutter. Their children are as follows...John, Richard, Alice, William, Ann and Elizabeth. If you will notice...there is a pattern to the names. Hope this helps....Billie

[BoHedley]

Thank you for reply and your time billie.
I think I have it now!!  This would have taken me months to find.
We obviously are related by William Sr. and Elizabeth Fletcher but only to William (PuffBilly) by William Sr.
So - Hello to a far flung Hedley relative!!
There is just one other query I have.  Yo wrote -

"I found William and Alice on the 1841 census with children Alice, John and Richard."

Are you referring to William(1812 the filecutter) here.  I have his wife as a "Jane" so I may have gone along the wrong route here.  However I have the same children's names and John(1832)is the one who follows my family line.  He moved to Sheffield - his son Thomas moved to Manchester and had a very large family there (where I was born)

Old William Sr. must have been quite a character!  Is it known that William Puffing Billy was illegitimate.  Its never mentioned anywhere.  He obviously grew up in quite a good family and financial background.

I had an email from a Pat Barnes and his family have a lot of info on the Hedley line but not a lot on Richard/Alice descendents.  Maybe they are your family??

Many thanks again for your help.
Bo42.