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Arthur Wakeling
« on: Sunday 30 September 07 00:00 BST (UK) »
Arthur Wakeling born 1869 to Walter Wakeling Elizabeth Smoothy  he was a Jeweler in Manchester around the turn of the century and was unmarried in the 1901 Censers
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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 September 07 01:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Doug !

What is it you are looking for in regards to Arthur Wakeling?

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 September 07 06:19 BST (UK) »
Dear Ambly ,
            Thank you for you interest Arthur Wakeling he was my GGMother's, brother I am trying to trace any descendants they had 7 other siblings except for my Grand Father George son of Eleanor up until 1901 the he was the only grandson of Walter he had 2 cousins girls from Alfred  Florence and Eve
                   Regards Doug Wakeling

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 October 07 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Doug

I should hasten to dsay I have no WAKELING connection:

It should perhaps be clarified that Arthur WAKELING 's full name is Arthur Frank WAKELING whose birth is registered in Dunmow Essex in Jun Qtr 1869.

In 1901, he is at 95 Moss Lane in the Hulme area of Manchester, on his own and listed as a Watch Clock & Jewelry maker and Shop keeper (own account), born Dunmow Essex.   (Ref: RG13 /   P  3704 /  25 / Pg 41.

I just found another post on the Essex Board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,257597.0.html
and anothe post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,257415.0.html

In both of these it is inferred that  Arhur  had 2 daughters ?

Or was it another brother Alfred  ??? who had the 2 daughters? Are these 2 daughters the Florence and Eve you mention?

Sorry,  I'm just a wee bit confused :

Walter WAKELING and Elizabeth SMOOTHY has 9 children.
I  can't quite work out who was who from your reply .
Are you trying to trace descendants via all their children or just via Arthur? If all of them, then perhaps it may be beneficial to your quest  to list in order all the children of Walter and Elizabeth with DOB. marriage, spouses, children in so far as you know already?   This may help someone who has a connection to any one of them to recognise a connection back to Walter?

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 October 07 02:45 BST (UK) »
Dear Ambly,
               Yes I am confused to, My Grandfather George A. was the son of Elenor (father unkmown) I am trying to trace his cousins, Daughters of Arthur they were as we know up till 1901 the only children out of the 9 children of Walter and Elizabeth Wakeling, Alfred was a clock merchant in Manchester he was not married in 1901 Cences.
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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 October 07 02:58 BST (UK) »


I thought getting back to basics might help a little ! .....

1871

Foxley's Farm Gt Dunmow

Walter Wakeling   58   Head Essex Farmer 156 acres
Elizabeth Wakeling   48
Emma Wakeling   15
Martha Moore Wakeling   12
William J Wakeling   9
Arthur F Wakeling   2

RG10 Piece 1704 Folio 17 Page 7

1881

Toolies Great Dunmow

Walter Wakeling   69   Head Gt Braxted Essex Retired Farmer
Elizabeth Wakeling 58 Saffron Walden
Elizabeth Wakeling   35
Arthur T. Wakeling   12
James Cook   25 Boarder

RG11 Piece 1813 Folio 13 Page 6

1891

Church End Great Dunmow

Walter Wakeling 78 Head Broxted Essex Retired Farmer
Eleanor M Wakeling 43
Elizabeth Wakeling 45

RG12 Piece 1428 Folio 30 Page 22
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407030702/http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolannie

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 October 07 03:34 BST (UK) »

Here's 1861 ........ maybe some of the names will ring bells !!  :) :) Does that help or hinder ??  :)

Crisps Farm (?) Great Totham

Walter Wakeling   48   Head Great Totham Essex
Elizabeth Wakeling   38
Elizabeth Wakeling   15
Elenor M Wakeling   13
Walter F Wakeling   11
Sarah Wakeling   9
Alfred Wakeling   7
Emma Wakeling   5
Martha M Wakeling   2
William Wakeling   81 Visitor Independent

RG9 Piece 1090 Folio 176 Page 3
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407030702/http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolannie

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407191115/http://manchestersoldiers.webs.com

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 October 07 04:02 BST (UK) »
Here - from the various Census is the 9 children of:

Walter WAKELING and Elizabeth SMOOTHY married 1844, Dec 1844 Saffrom Walden

Issue:
1  Elizabeth abt 1846
2  Eleanor abt 1848  - had a son, George, father unknown (Doug's line)
3  Walter Frederick abt 1850
4  Sarah abt 1852
5  Alfred 1854
6  Emma abt 1856
7  Martha Moore abt 1859
8  William J abt 1862
9  Arthur Frank 1869 - unmarried watch/clock.jewlery Shopkeeper 1901


ALFRED had the 2 daughters, Florence and Eve. He was Grocer in Manchester in 1901
ARTHUR was the unmarried Clock/Watch/Jewelymaketr/Shopkeeper in 1901 Manchester

1901: Birch in Rusholme, Manchester, Lancashire
RG13 /  P 3683 /  F 52 / Pg  9 /  RD: Chorlton
171 Wilmslow Road
Head: Alfred WAKELING  47, Grocer (employer) b Tatham Essex
Wife: Hannah WAKELING 49, b Tamworth Staffs
Dau: Florence H? (M? A?) WAKELING 15, unm, Dressmaker apprentice, b Manchester
Dau: Eva B  WAKELING  5, b Manchester

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 October 07 04:26 BST (UK) »
But of course, Doug you do know all that!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,111507.0.html
(under the other RC name: DougWakeling


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 Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace
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