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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 02:31 BST (UK) »
thank Annie,
               I think the reference to Florance born 1886 and Eve born 1896 is true  Arthur we believe married a Hannah the birth dates probably correct the William in all this could have migrated to Canada looking into this and if Campbell Smoothy Wakeling is his son as his middle name is Smoothy  his mothers maiden name was Smoothy
                 Regards Doug Wakeling

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 04:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie Darling,
You are a wonder..... :o
I feel sure that Doug will love what you have found.........in Canada..

Doug...? This Canadian connection is quite...great...

but the 2 girls will show their faces soon.....but go with what has turned up here..and be in wonder...

Jo


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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 22:52 BST (UK) »
It doesn't seem that Campbell Smoothey WAKELING is directly in Doug's tree - I guess the hope was he was the son of William b abt 1862. But his mother is not Elizabeth SMOOTHEY - it was Emily STEPHENS. It seems his SMOOTHEY bit came down from his father.  There are actually a number of WAKELING's with that middle name. Another was a Kemble born in Essex.... his father was a George. I can see Census, for them Doug, if you  don't already have it or are interested, please call out !!

Campbell:  I think his father William was born abt 1855 Ongar Essex,  the son  a Zacariah or Yachariah WAKELING.

WW1 Attesttation Papers - Canada
Campbell S WAKELING, Bricklayer, unmarried
Age 24 years and 5 months, b 2 Mar 1891, Plumstead Kent
At time of Enlistment is already in Active Militia:  7th Fusiliers, 10 mths
Description:
Height: 5' 3 &qtr ", Fair hair & complesion, Gray eyes, Religion: Baptist
NOK:  Father William WAKELING of 26 Campbell St London Ontario
Attested: 20 Aug 1915, London Ontario

BIRTH: Campbell Smoothy WAKELING - Jun Qtr 1891, Woolwich RD.

1901: Corringham, Ossett, Essex
Ref:  RG13 /  P / 1662 / F 90 / P 18
Address: Gables Hall,
Head: William WAKELING 46, Bricklayer, b Ongar Essex
Wife: Emily 42, b Woolwich Kent, London
Son: Arthur 18, unm, Bricklayer, b Silvertown London
Dau: Rosetta 12, b East Plumstead Kent
Son: Ernest 11, b East Plumstead Kent
Son: Campbell 10, b East Plumstead Kent
Dau: Grace 7, b Romford Essex
Son: William 6, b Ossett Essex
Dau: Maud 4,  b Ossett Essex
Dau: Elsie 2,  b Ossett Essex

1891: East Plumstead, Woolwich, London
Ref:RG12 /  P 539 /  F  78 / Pg40
Address: Sidney Cottage
Head: William WAKELING 36, Bricklayer, b Ongar, Essex
Wife: Emily 31, b Greenwich Kent
Son: Sydney 11, Scholar, b Plumstead Kent
Son: Arthur 8, Scholar, b Silvertown Essex
Son: Harry 7, Scholar, b Totham Essex
Son: Frederick 6, Scholar, b Totham Essex
Dau: Emily 4, b Westeral?? Park --, Kent
Dau: Rosetta 2, b Plumstead Kent
Son: Ernest 1, b Plumstead Kent
Son: Campbell 1 months, b Plumstead Kent

1881: Greenwich East , London
Ref: RG11 /P  727 /  F  17 /  Pg  27
Address: 28 Glenister Road
Head: William WAKELING 24, Bricklayer, b Witham Essex
Wife: Emily 21, b Greenwich Kent
Visitor: Emma WAKELING 22, unm, Servant, b Witham Essex
Son:  William WAKELING 1, b Witham Essex
Lodger: George WAKELING 20, unm, Brick's Labourer, b Braintree Essex

MARRIAGE:   Sep Qtr 1879 Greenwich RD
William S---othy WAKELING and Emily STEPHENS

3 ot their children at least in Canada name their parents as WIlliam WAKLEING and Emily STEPHENS/STEVENS:
Son: Arthur married Canada 1907 
Daughter: Elsie married in Canada in 1919
Daughter: Emily married Canada 1908 -

DEATH:   in London City, Middlesex County , Ontario, Canada:
Ref: 810 - Registered
Death: 11 Oct 1921 at 838 York Street (residence)
William WAKELING age 65 years, born Jul 14 (year blank),  England, married
Occupation: Building Contractor
Cause of Death (primary) Pulmonary Tuberculosis 3 years,
Cause of Death (contributory) Influenza and Cardiac Failure 5 days
Length of time at Place of death : 1 year
Legnth of time in Ontario:  14 Years
Length of time in Canada (blank)
Name & POB of Father:  William S WAKELING, b England
Name & POB of Mother: Blank
Informant: Ernest WAKELING, son, of York Street
Deceased is buried at Woodland Cemetery 14 Oct 1921
Undertaker: W HARRISON, London Ontario.

I think this death cert incorrectly lists William's father as William S - I think that could be his own name! His 1879 marriage cert would  sort that one out if you wanted to.  His son Ernest is the death  informant, and did not know his grandmother's name, so perhaps he got the grandfather's wrong too!

Outside looking in and assuming you did not already know of them, I think there is a good chance these WAKELINGS are connected to you - and the  SMOOTHEY and WAKELINGS are probably connected in other ways besides the  marriage of your Walter & Elizabeth.  It may be a case of Siblings marrying Siblings of another family, or cousin marriages. Incidentally, some of the Ontario WAKELINGS appear to have made tracks down to Detroit Michigan at some stage.

Doug, not sure what you may have if anything on all this, or if you are interested in pursuing any of it! I realise this thread was started in the hopes of locating Florence A and Eva B, Alfred's daughters.

What we have been trying to do, is search laterally - as sometimes that can wash the targets out! Instead we seem to have found a forest of WAKELINGS but not them!

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 00:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly,
             If Campbell is the son of Zac Wakeling  ,Zac was Walters brother both brothers married girls with name Smoothy . (sounds confusing )
I thank you for all the work you have done I feel I am only in kindagarten but I will keep searching
             Regards Doug
ps all this started to find the father of George Wakeling my GF son of Elenor he took his mothers name


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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 00:31 BST (UK) »
You're welcome Doug
There appears to be more WAKELINGS than you can poke a stick at that are likely connected to yours!

I think Campbell was Zac's grandson, via Zac's son William.
There is someone floating about who is obviously researching Zac's line  - does the surname BRAND mean anything to you? Would you be interested in contacting this person if you don't already know who they are?

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 05:54 BST (UK) »
Dear Ambly,
             Yes Peter Brand from York has lots of infomation on the Smoothys. I checked on Zac. Line this morning and could not find any reference to a Campbell Smoothy Wakeling  have emailed Peter B. for confimation Wakeling is not a common name but as you say there seems to be lots
             Regards Doug Wakeling

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 06:02 BST (UK) »


Well Doug !

Maybe we found one Peter B doesn't know about ... wouldn't that be a turn up for the books ....  ??  ;D

Ambly worked it all out didn't she ?.... clever girl !!  :) :) Looks like there's still plenty to do on all those Wakelings though !!

Annie  :)
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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 06:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Annie ,
           At this rate I will have to employ a sec. or write a book I am waiting for my  publisher to Publish my 1st book "Curse the Bells" published by Zeus publications .com.au
                Regards Doug

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Re: Arthur Wakeling
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 06:19 BST (UK) »


Have to be careful of those secretaries though Doug !!!!  ::) ::)

I'll put "Curse the Bells" on my reading list - or should I just wait for the film to come out ??  ;D

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