Reed/Crozier Family - Westoe

[JulieC]

Hi

I am trying to find information on William Crozier who married Isabella Reed in Newcastle Upon Tyne 1858.

I last found them altogether in the 1861 census Westoe, Durham with child Jane Thompson Crozier.

I think I have located their daugher in following cenuses but she appears to be living with another family called Matthew and Sarah Blythe in Westoe and they have adopted her.

Regards,

Julie

[Ruskie]

Hi Julie,

Welcome to RootsChat!

What exact information are you looking for? Census? BMD's? Their parents? I have a few questions which might help us:

Do you have the marriage certificate of William and Isabella?

Do you have them in any census apart from the 1861?

I found them on the 61 - William's dob c 1827, Isabella's dob c 1831, daughter Jane Thomson b c 1859. William appears to have been born in Skelton Cumberland? He is a labourer.

[Ruskie]

No luck finding William in 1851.

HO 107 piece 2399 folio 629 page 4
Westoe
11 Field Row

John Reed head wid 53 Teacher Northumberland Cle**ngson (?)
Isabella daur u 19 Alnwick
George son 14 collecting clerk *** books
Thomas son u 13

[Ruskie]

And I found Isabella's mother ...

HO107/828/59/9
1841
Alnwick Town

John Reed 40 schoolmaster
Jane 40 Y
Joseph 15 *** ap Y
John 13 draper's ap
William 12 draper's ap
Isabella 10
George 4
Thomas 2

All born in county

[JulieC]

Hi Ruskie,

Thanks !

My dad & I have been baffled regarding our ancestors - they seem to have disappeared by the 1861 census.  We have spent spent many hours sifting through the computer !

Isabella's mother was called Jane Thompson and this was how we found Isabella in 1861 as her daughter was called Jane Thompson Crozier.  They married 1/4 to June 1858 which we found on FreeBMD - we haven't purchased the certificate as yet but that may help us decide where her father is deceased by then !

It would be interesting to find out why Jane Crozier was adopted by the Blythes though I doubt we will ever find that out !

Regards,

Julie.

[Ruskie]

Hi Julie,

I suppose you have already looked for deaths for William and Isabella after 1861? They may have fallen on hard times and thought it best to have Jane adopted? I wonder if the Blythes were relatives. What does it say on the census regarding their relationship to Isabella?

With such a distinctive name, it's not likely that there are two Jane Thompson Croziers (but stranger things have happened), so you've probably found the right one with the Blythes.

As William would be about 24 on the 51 census, it's likely he's not at home, and he may be lodging somewhere - so it may be difficult to identify him.

If you get the marriage certificate, hopefully you'll get his father's name. (Bet it's William!  )

Depending on the information you require, at some stage it might be worthwhile asking for a Parish Register lookup for William's birth in Skelton on the Cumberland board. Might be best to do this after you find out his father's name from his marriage certificate.

I'll have another look around for him later today.

[Ruskie]

Hi again!

I've found a couple of candidates.

1851
HO/2431/169/11
Burgh by Sands

In household of Thomas Simpson farmer of 110 acres and family
William Crozer servant unmarr 25 farm servant b Cumberland Biglands
Richard Crozer servant unmarr 19 farm servant b Cumberland Biglands

1841
HO107/171/3/14
Township of Glassonby

In household of Hugh Dodd farmer
William Crozier 15 Male Servant Y (born in county)

1841
HO107/166/4/2
Aikhead, Wigton

Mary Crosier 75 ind Y
Mary Crosier 35 ind Y
Joseph 15 Y
Richard 7 Y
next door
John Crossier 70 farmer Y
+ Female servant

Wondering if William and Richard in the 1851 are brothers/cousins? So decided to find Richard in 1841 in case he is with his mother.

I just discovered that Biglands = Wigton.

Skelton is about 15 miles from Biglands. Bit of a difference in William's place of birth in 1851 and 1861, if it is in fact the same William. I would tend to believe he was born in Skelton as he would have filled out this census himself. His employer probbly filled out the 1851 census and said William was from Biglands, which is where he lived previously rather than where he was born ... all speculation of course!

But there ARE only a couple of William Cro*ers born in Cumberland in 1827 +/- 5 years.

Just to follow this through:
1861
New St, Wigton
RG9/3925/37/4

Richard Crozier head marr 28 farmers labourer b Aikhead
Jane wfie 25 dress worker b Wigton
Joseph son 1 month

[Ruskie]

Scrap that William and Richard. I just found a William Crosier in 1871 still in Biglands b Aikhead  .

[JulieC]

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Not too sure about 1841 Census though as there are 2 possibilities - one with family & one without.

Should hopefully be ordering William & Isabella Marriage Certificate.  We also need it to fathom out if Isabella's Father John was dead by then which should help to eliminate other John Reeds !

I have also emailed 2 possible leads with the Blythes via GR and I'm still waiting for a response from them.

Thanks again,

Julie