Where was/is Catstone?

[ndedross]

Does anyone know where, in Derbyshire, Catstone was (c.1850). I can't find it on a modern map. I am expecting somewhere in the NW of the county? Google comes up with a place near Wirksworth/Matlock, which doesn't seem right.

Many thanks.

[maidmarianoops]

Catstone Bilborough Road Nottingham NG8 4DS

i looked up old maps  this came up but it looked like it was a large building

[ndedross]

Thank you for the search - but I think Nottingham will be too far away.

I am going to look at the original 1881 Census image to see if his birthplace has been mis-transcribed. There is what looks like a farm called Capstone near New Mills/Mellor in NW Derbyshire which I just came across by chance. This would be a more logical location.

But for now I'll add the location you so kindly found to the possibilities.

Nigel

[maidmarianoops]

John Livsley abt 1846  Catestone, Derbyshire, England Head  Walmersley Cum Shuttleworth   1881 census

[ndedross]

John Livesly/Livesley is the person my wife is researching. Unfortunately, there is no place called Catestone that I've found in Derbyshire, and only Catstone Barn near Wirksworth or the place you found near Nottingham that might work.
But, I have now (yesterday!) found John in the 1841 Census living in Disley, Cheshire. His birthplace is given as Mellor, Derbyshire. There is a farm to the south of Mellor on the OS Map called Capstone. John's father came from New Mills. New Mills, Disley, Mellor are all within a few miles of each other, around NW Derbyshire. So, I'm thinking that Catestone must be a transcription or entry error in the 1881 Census.
Many thanks for your help

[maidmarianoops]

is'nt genealogy fun
i found these so i will send them they may fit somewhere .happy new year sylvia

1841 wirksworth census  Mk246l  LIVESAY John 45

1881 wirksworth censusW132c    LIVESEY Charles 6
Cm227f   LIVESEY Jane 22
W132a    LIVESEY John Thomas 28
W132d    LIVESEY Percy 2
W132e    LIVESEY Sydney 1
1891 ww census
Mk0021e  LIVESLEY Edith 14 living with a Smith family
Mk0021d  LIVESLEY Jane 32

1901 ww census
Mk1228d  LIVERSLY Arthur 9  nephew living with Smith family

[ndedross]

Thanks, Sylvia.

I'm sure that they all fit somehow.

People seem to have been more mobile in the early 1800's than one is led to believe. I have an ancestor who moved from Ayr to Poplar, London before 1800. My wife's ancestor moved from Disley/New Mills to Bury at the same time his uncle went to Blackburn (he later returned with a wife and two children - at least). My wife's father, born in Bury, grew up near Boston, USA - but returned to marry her mother!! Talk about nomads!

 Happy New Year,

Nigel

[maidmarianoops]

i looked up wyatt and saw that the livesey name was with it
forgot where i found info apart from a glossop page



29 Oct John WYATT; 23 yrs; Bachelor; Butcher; Res: New Mills; Father
William; Machine Printer & Martha Ann LIVESLEY; 22 yrs; Spinster; No occup;
Res: New Mills; Father Samuel; Deceased Witnesses: William James Wyatt
Catherine Wyatt



22 Oct William James WYATT; 20 yrs; Bachelor; Coachman; Res: New Mills;
Father William, Machine Printer & Catherine MANTELL; 19 yrs; Spinster; No
occup; Res: New Mills; Father Joseph; Hair dresser Witnesses: John Wyatt
Martha Ann Livesley





31 May Edward TURNER; Full age; Widower, Cotton maker, Res: Hayfield; Father
Samuel; Labourer & Maria WYATT; Full age; Spinster; No occup; Res: Hayfield;
Father William; Rock cutter Witnesses: Toby Bradbury Joseph Walton





2 Nov Eli LOWE; 48 yrs; Widower; Labourer; Res: Hayfield; & Ann WYATT; 40
yrs; Spinster; No occup; Res; Hayfield; Father; Henry; Block jointer
Witnesses: Samuel Wyatt Mary Scholes



23 Sep James William HORTON? 23yrs; Bachelor; Mason; Res: Birch Vale; Father
Frances; Mason & Margaret Alice WYATT; 21 yrs; Spinster, No occup; Res:
Birch Vale, Father George, Manager    Witnesses: George Wyatt John
Winterbottom



15 Apr Tom WYATT; 22 yrs; Bachelor; Labourer; Res: Thornsett; Father Thomas;
Labourer & Alice Amelia WATERHOUSE; 21 yrs; Spinster; No occup Res:
Thornsett; Father James; Block Printer Witnesses: Edward Summerfold Margaret
Ann Shaw

[ndedross]

Many thanks.

Do you have the year?

Unfortunately, both Martha Ann and Samuel Livesley are 'common' family names. But there is a Martha Ann (b. 1835) with a brother who was a butcher - so that would be a nice fit (he hopes!).

I tried a quick Google search but didn't relocate the page.

Best wishes,

Nigel