Tucknott/Tucknutt/Tugnut/Tugnott. Help I'm lost

[sillgen]

Hi Folks
It might be worth looking at the earlier post as there are a few useful snippets on it relating to Tugnett etc. and a lovely amount of info about the Fowlers.  "Electoral rolls" on the Sussex Board.  Cannot post the link.
Andrea

[Roy G]

Sussex Roll of Honour has
TUGNUTT  John
 Private L. 5866, 2nd Battalion, Royal Sussex Regiment. 1st Division.
Regular Soldier.
Died of wounds in captivity 15 November 1914. Aged 33
Son of John and Jane Tugnutt of Brighton.
Husband of Mrs Florence Tugnutt of 12, Sandown Road, Elm Grove, Brighton.
Born and enlisted in Brighton.
South African Medal, Mons Star and clasp.
Included on Brighton War Memorial.
Buried in Lille Southern Cemetery F. 1027

Looks as though your luck in finding liks still holds Linda

Roy G

[Stovepipe]

This looks like the entry in the deaths register for Ada's father:

Deaths Dec 1897
Tugnutt    John    42    Brighton    2b   137

Age is more or less right.  Could explain why he can't be found in the 1901 census.

Stovepipe

[Dave Francis]

Oh dear 

1901 Warren Farm Schools, Rottingdean, Sussex
RG 13/919 folio 110 page 8

Inmates included...
Emily Tucknott, 12
Charles Tucknott, 9
Albert Tucknott, 7
Frederick Tucknott, 5

All born Brighton

We know about Emily and Charles. Were Albert and Frederick their younger brothers?

And what happened to Mum?

Some info about the Warren Farm Schools here:
http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page_id__5705.aspx

[Roy G]

Re Ada's mother
A Jane Tucknott aged 42 with no given occupation appears on the 1901 census.
Were her children in the Warren Farm industrial school and she in the Brighton Workhouse in Elm Grove?  Who can look up that Jane on the 1901 census for you to see if she was in the workhouse?

Re Ada's brother
I do not know whether the John R Tucknott who the records have as marrying a Harriet, was the same John who the Rolls of Honour have as married to a Florence and killed in 1914, but if so, he can be found as an engine turner in the Preston district of Brighton in 1901.  If it was him, by the look of it, John joined the army, served in South Africa, returned to work in the Brighton Railway Loco sheds and joined up again as soon as WW1 was declared.

Roy G

[Dave Francis]

Hi Roy - the Jane Tucknott in Elm Grove isn't the right one unfortunately. She is listed as the unmarried daughter of Alfred and Jane Tucknott. [RG13/924 f26 p44]

[mothermicheal]

Hi
Would have got back to you all earlier, but the computer keeps playing up.

My thanks to everyone for all thier help.

I have now got lots more information to digest.

Thank you

Linda

[paulvt]

Oh dear 

1901 Warren Farm Schools, Rottingdean, Sussex
RG 13/919 folio 110 page 8

Inmates included...
Emily Tucknott, 12
Charles Tucknott, 9
Albert Tucknott, 7
Frederick Tucknott, 5

All born Brighton

We know about Emily and Charles. Were Albert and Frederick their younger brothers?

These four are siblings. There was anotherborn later, Rosie, born 1896.

Ada Clara was the eldest siblin and my great grandmother. She had a son born out of wedlock, Frederick, in April 1902. We nelieve that Frederick was born in a workhouse so this is likely the place. He was known as Frederick Tucknott-Nye. Does anybody have any information?

[Roy G]

Some superfluous but slightly related information.

Warren Farm Industrial School.
This has the deepest "Hand Dug" well in the world.
It was dug in 1864 using workhouse labour and its depth is almost identical to the height  of the Empire State State Building.

Re Brighton Workhouuse (Elm Grove/Race Hill Building)
There is an early black & white silent movie circa 1902 showing this workhouse. 
It is a short film based on the war in South Africa and the hero returns to find that in his absence, his widowed mother has been placed in there.  Naturally he rescues her.  Unfortunately I can't remember what it's called, but it was amongst a number of clips from the film archives of Sussex University that were shown to the Brighton & Hove branch of the SusseX Family History Group about 4 years ago. 
If you are interested in it, I will see if I can find out which department of the Media Studies group at the university brought it along.

Roy G