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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 October 08 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hi
If you did not receive attachements I will send by personal email though I do not yet know how to as new to site. I also have pictures of Williams marriage to Aunt Nell
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 October 08 19:15 BST (UK) »
Have you got records of licensees of London Apprentice Inn for the period around 1895.   I think the Challis family had it for a while from memory on another posting.

The Challis family (in turn Daniel, Mary, Daniel & Emily) held the license from the 1840s (first record I have is from 1847) until 1902ish. Charles New took the license after them (I haven't got the exact date - yet).

Have you got the date also that Charles New (Snr) took over the license, and then he handed over to his son Charles Edmund New before he in turn transferred the license to William George Bosley

You haven't got the spirit of licensing quite right - in most cases landlords were selected by the brewer who owned or leased the pub (the London Apprentice was owned by Newbury Corporation until the 1890s). Transfers were done by application (often by the brewer's solicitor) to the licensing justices at one of half a dozen special courts through the year. Outgoing landlords had no ability to transfer licenses but they would (I think) get something from the incoming landlord for the goodwill and fixtures and fittings that did not belong to the brewery.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 October 08 19:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
If you did not receive attachements I will send by personal email though I do not yet know how to as new to site. I also have pictures of Williams marriage to Aunt Nell
Yours
Paul
No sign of attached images - I too would love to see them.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 October 08 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbury Chap,

Thanks for the info once again.

Yes I too am looking forward to receiving attachments from flyingpig, obviously new to this site, so having trouble attaching documents.

I must admit it took me a while too, when I first got on to Rootschat, it has been a great site, have found so much information through this, and everyone is so helpful.

janjim
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir


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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan,

Came across another refernce to a New - William New. Is seems he was landlord of the Chequer or White House or Angel or Lord Craven Arms. The name comes from a list of former landlords (and former names) of this inn given in an abstract of title dated 1879. I suspect Wm New would have been resident mid to late C18th. The Chequer is now part of The Chequers in Oxford St, Newbury (in Speenhamland so only in Newbury since 1878).
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #14 on: Friday 10 October 08 06:35 BST (UK) »
Newbury Chap,

Thanks for this information once again, I'm not sure of our which member of the New family it would be there, but obviously related somehow.

janjim
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 October 08 13:20 BST (UK) »
Mention of Speenhamland brought to mind delightful reminiscences of the Duke of Beaufort in 'Driving', first published in 1890, and of 'Old Mrs Botham' of The Pelican, Speenhamland, who horsed the York House coach for a couple of stages and provided 'cherry brandy noted for its excellence all over the country'.
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BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 12:45 BST (UK) »
Sadly Mrs Botham went bankrupt after the railways killed the coaching trade. She ended her days in the almshouses at Froxfield and was buried at Speen.

She ran the George & Pelican - usually known just as the Pelican - taking over when her husband died.  This is the best known of Newbury's many coaching inns - and the subject of the epigram reputedly written by a famous actor of the day, James Quinn:

The famous in at Speenhamland that stands below the hill,
may well be called the Pelican for its enormous bill.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 March 09 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Another New family snippet.

Edmund New (formerly of the Two Brewers) took on the license of the New Market (aka Newmarket) Inn for a few months in 1908. The landlord, James Dewe had died and Edmund was his executor (or one of them) - in order to maintain and maximise the value of the license for Dewe's estate the executors needed a temporary landlord while they and the owners (Strange's Brewery) settled on a new licensee to take on the pub and cough up for Dewe's fixtures, fittings, etc.
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