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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 23 September 10 08:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbury Chap,
Well just another question in regard to the New family, we have found a Charles New b. 1835 (Uncle of Charles New who ran the Old London Apprentice Inn for a period of time)as living at Jack of Newbury in 1861 census with his wife Mary and 2 children.

Are you able to tell me whether Jack of Newbury was a Pub or maybe it was some other accomodation place.

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Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 23 September 10 08:50 BST (UK) »
They were in Jack of Newbury Street, as I extracted for you.  If they had been at the pub one of the occupants would have been identified as a victualler or variant trade.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 23 September 10 09:55 BST (UK) »
Dee-jay,
My apology dee-jay, yes I realize that one of them may have been a victualler in that case,
but there are several of my New family members involved in the pubs in Newbury, the Two Brewers, London Apprentice, Swan Inn, etc. etc. thought there might have been a connection.
Not aware of a street named Jack of Newbury Street.

jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 23 September 10 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Newburychap

    My grandmother lived at the Blue Boar inn at North Health Newbury My grandmother name was Mary Dix born 1902 at Strealey Berkshire. I know that she was given to a aunt and uncle to bring up and that in 1911 she was living with Thomas Henry Painton born 1866. Thomas was the landlord o the Blue Boar in 1911,also living with Thomas was his wife Annie born 1867 and a son John born 1897. In 1911 my grandmother was know as Mary Painton, but when she married in 1923 she was know as Mary Dix.

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 23 September 10 15:18 BST (UK) »
Are you able to tell me whether Jack of Newbury was a Pub or maybe it was some other accomodation place.

The Jack of Newbury or simply The Jack Hotel was a large establishment in Northbrook St. It is quite possible that it was a large part of Jack of Newbury's house. Jack was a very wealthy clothier of the early to mic C16th, that Henry VIII visited him is an indication of his status. Eventually retired to the country - he bought Bucklebury, Thatcham, and East Lockinge when the lands of Reading and Abingdon Abbeys were sold off.

The hotel was demolished ca1935 and the current Marks & Spencer shop built on the site.

Alleys ran along either side between Northbrook St and The Marsh (now Victoria Park). The one to the south was Jack Street (perhaps called Jack of Newbury Street at some time).  Jack St's houses were demolished in the 1960s (ish) - it is now part of a huge building site for a new shopping centre.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 23 September 10 15:24 BST (UK) »
    My grandmother lived at the Blue Boar inn at North Health ...

Hi Sandra,

North Heath is in Chieveley and hence outside of my study area (the current boundaries of Newbury) - but it hasn't stopped me drinking there in the past.  However, I haven't been since it changed to The Crab at Chieveley some years ago. The blue boar (a statue reputedly abandoned there by one of the Parliamentary army heading for the 2nd Battle of Newbury in 1644) is still there.

I'll file your info in case I extend the study in the future - thanks.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 25 September 10 12:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just found your thread and wonder if you'd know whether The Catherine Wheel was a coaching inn in 1811?

The landlord of the pub, John Salter, was a bondsman on the marriage licence of my ancestor John Butcher who was apparently a Coach Bookee (as described on the licence) in Thatcham and I am looking for a link to possibly pin John Butcher down a bit more!

Thanks

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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 25 September 10 22:55 BST (UK) »
Just found your thread and wonder if you'd know whether The Catherine Wheel was a coaching inn in 1811?
The Catherine Wheel was probably more of a carters' inn than a coaching one - it certainly wasn't among the main inns of the town. It is quite possible that the landlord had a few horses or even a small coach to let but I haven't found any reference to a coach service using it as their Newbury stop.

The landlord of the pub, John Salter, was a bondsman on the marriage licence of my ancestor John Butcher who was apparently a Coach Bookee (as described on the licence) in Thatcham and I am looking for a link to possibly pin John Butcher down a bit more!

Coach Bookee is a term I haven't come across before - Salter is landlord from the 1790s to the 1820s (thought it could have been two John Salters in succession).  Can you tell me where the marriage licence can be found, I collect all references to Newbury pubs and landlords that I can find.
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Re: Newbury Inns, Pubs & Beerhouses
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 26 September 10 01:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbury Chap,
Going back to the first part of this Old Pubs site, with regard to the Old London Apprentice Inn, are you able to provide the approximate date that this Pub was built please?

Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir