Buckinghamshire WOOLHOUSE Family

[turtle]

Hello

I am researching Richard Woolhouse born about 1811,at Eton,  parents: Avice and Richard (a 'servant' )  His first wife: Diana Locock, second wife Ann White.   I'd be interested to hear from anyone connected to these people .  Children: Henry,(1835) Avice,(1838) Ann, Sarah,(1862) Edward,(1847) Richard, (1845)James,(1859) John.(1855)

I had assumed this man to be a son to Francis and Phoebe Woolhouse. Not so it appears.  Is anyone able to show the connection with these families ? as they are sure to be all related.

 

[JeannieR]

Hello There........

Not sure if this is what your are looking for, but it certainly looks as if this is your Richard Woolhouse, brother..........

1851 census

Pheasant Beer House, Kings Road, New Windsor, Berkshire

Henry Woolhouse/ head / age 36 / Beer hose keeper/timber dealer/ Upton, Bucks
Elizabeth Woolhouse / wife / age 36 / born New Windsor
Phoebe / daughter / age 12
Francis / son / age 10
Thomas / son / age 9
William H / son / age 7
Marian / daughter / age 3
Mary Ann / daughter / age 10 months

There is the birth registration of a John Richard Woolhouse/ New Windsor / 1855
Is this of interest ??  I will get the exact details, should you require

Kind regards

JeannieR

[turtle]

Hello, thanks for looking , they are connected.

One thing that puzzles though,  I have been looking for a Francis Woolhouse ( born 1776, Beaconsfield ) in the 1851 census, and can't find him , but have located him through a search on Family History Online, in the 1851 Berkshire Census, age 75, New Windsor, retired sawyer.  Why can't I find this info on the National Archives search of the 1851 census ?? strange 

[JeannieR]

Hi Again.......

I have found Francis, on the 1851 census at Ancestry.......His name was transcribed as FRANCES WOODTHOUSE........

Obviously, whoever as written up the transcriptions for Familyhistoryonline, was more literate, than those who did so in the 1850's......I found him just by entering Frances / Windsor....I had tried Woolhouse and also Francis.....

Just in case, here he is in 1861....

12 Russell Street, New Windsor

Francis Woolhouse/head / age 85 / Proprietor of houses and bakery
Mary Grey / daughter / widow / age 50 / born Upton
Harriet R Moorcroft / daughter / widow / age 60 / born Clewer

I will have another look, and see if I can find the birth registration of Richard and Edward Woolhouse again......

Regards

Jeannie

[turtle]

Hello, many thanks for the search,  it is him , I've been caught out by bad spelling in transcripts before, but still got caught with this one !

[behindthefrogs]

I can't remember if we have been through this before, I was certainly aware that your Woolhouses might be connected to my wife's family.

Mary Woolhouse married George Gray at Upton cum Chalvey 25 April 1831.  His family is as follows:

Jonathan Gray born c 1760 Upton cum Chalvey married  29 Aug 1787in Eton  Sarah Anne Godman (bapt 24 Mar 1764 Upton cum Chalvey daughter of William Godman (born 1734 son of John Godman born c 1692 Langley Marish and Rose ____ born 1696 Langley Marish )and Sarah Bassford (born Burton Latimer 1733).  They were married in 29 Apr 1754).  Their children were:

John Gray bapt 30 Mar 1788  Upton cum Chalvey
George Gray bapt 10 May 1790 Upton cum Chalvey married 25 Apr 1831by banns  in Upton cum Chalvey to Mary Woolhouse (bapt 23 Jul 1809 daughter of Francis and Pheobe Woolhouse)
Sophia Gray bapt 17 Oct 1791 Upton cum Chalvey married William Gilder (born c 1792) in Eton 3 Oct 1808.  Sophia died in Eton Q1 1865.  William was still living in 1861.
William Gray bapt 29 Mar 1795 & 26 Oct 1795 Upton cum Chalvey
Elizabeth Gray bapt 29 Mar 1795 & 26 Oct 1795 Upton cum Chalvey
Anne Gray bapt 17 Feb 1798 Upton cum Chalvey
Thomas Gray bapt 6 Nov 1803 Upton cum Chalvey married Amelia Pearce 8 Apr 1833 Upton cum Chalvey
Joseph Gray bapt 6 Nov 1803 Upton cum Chalvey married Ann Smith 8 May 1827 Upton cum Chalvey

William's daughter Mary Anne Gray married Henry Johnson who is also descended from a Woolhouse line residing at that time in Thame Oxfordshire but probably related to the Windsor Woolhouses.

David

[turtle]

Hello and thanks for the info, 
two of the names you have given may be of further relevance to my Richard Woolhouse, (b. 1811 Eton )   ,  Ann Gray : there was an Ann Gray who was a witness to his marriage at Langley Marish in 1843 .  There was a Sophia Kirtland, informant on his death certificate in 1863, could this be Sophia Gray ?

I believe his father may be Richard Woolhouse b. 1783 in Beaconsfield, brother to Francis Woolhouse b.1776 ( married Phoebe Rankley 1799 )   

There is a Richard Woolhouse who died 1817 at Eton aged 34 this matches the 1783 birth date.  I have been unable to find a record of his marriage to 'Avice'  I would be really grateful to anyone who can find this marriage for me!  His daughter is Avice, born 1810 Eton, Richard b.1811 at Eton , and Ann, born 1817 Eton. There are no more births to this marriage after 1817 which leads me to believe this is the same Richard ( d.1817 )   Who was the mysterious Avice ?  It's not an overly common name , there aren't many in Bucks at this time frame .

All of the Buckinghamshire and Berkshire Woolhouses are connected, Richard ( b. 1811 at Eton ) moved to Bray ( Moneyrow Green ) about the late 1850's, his son Edward was born in Windsor abt. 1849 ( not been able to find his birth record yet ) too many records , New Windsor, Old Windsor, Windsor Castle , where to start!! 

Does anyone know who Aris Woolhouse was ?? born 1837 and recorded at Windsor Castle 1850 no mention what the record was ( marriage unlikely at 13, death ? ) (Nothing in the G.R.O. ) Who were his parents?  again, a very unusual name, normally it appears , female.

I am also interested to find a link between the Woolhouse family I am tracing and Paul Woolhouse who would have been born about 1700 -1710 who was college butcher at Eton 1740's , he has a son Richard, ( married Mary 1758 )also college butcher , Eton.   Richard died 1775.

Another puzzle,  what became of Richard Woolhouse born to Francis and Phoebe at Upton Cum Chalvey 1811 ? 



Dean   

[behindthefrogs]

It is possible that Anne Gray was your witness to Richard's marriage.  There is another Anne Gray in my tree but she would only have been 11 or 12 at the time of the marriage.  While this is another possibility it seems unlikely.

I think you can rule out Sophia as she was still calling herself Gilder when she died in 1865.

My other Woolhouse line were in Egham (just over the border in Surrey) and Iver in the latter half of the 18th century but they were nearly all females.  The only male who I haven't "hatched, matched and despatched" is a Thomas who was born in 1783 in Thame but is likely to have moved to the Windsor area.

David

[Debster1]

Hi David
In a previous message on this thread you quoted the children of Jonathan Gray and Sarah Godman.

I am writing to see if you have any more information about their eldest child, "John Gray bapt 30 Mar 1788  Upton cum Chalvey". Do you know if this John Gray married Mary Todd (bapt 17 Oct 1788 Eton) in Eton 3 Oct 1808?

My great great grandfather Henry GRAY  bapt 3 May 1818 Upton was, I believe, the son of John GRAY and Mary TODD. Henry's son, George GRAY (born 3 Sep 1844 Westminster, Middlesex) came to Australia as an orphan in 1860. George came out with a family by the name of WALKER and the shipping records show that there was already an Uncle named George GRAY already in the colony (Sydney) at that time.

Anyway, just writing to see if you know any further info about this line of the GRAY family and whether you have any Walker families on your tree and if you know of any other GRAY family emigrants to Australia.

Thankyou for the information you posted about the GRAYs! I do have information on the Australian Grays, but won't go into it now as there may not be a connection.

Regards
Debbie
Maldon, Victoria, Australia