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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 22 September 07 17:03 BST (UK) »
Hi again

How about this one?

RG11/3623/75/53

Jane JENKINSON serv Mar 33 - dom serv - Lanc Liverpool

Address: 43 Myrtle St, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool (home of the BOSE family)


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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 22 September 07 17:47 BST (UK) »
Yes, a possibility! But only IF she married the James Jenkinson, if so where is he?

It could go on and on couldnt it?

One might even say we have got sidetracked!

Back to Clara

 - nee Currey (as per Emily's birth cert), but no child Clara Currey found on censuses, or birth found as yet in FreeBMD

 - married to Philip Ennis as per Emily's birth cert, but no marriage found as yet in FreeBMD

 - married, but with father, surname Corless?? or similar in 1871

- married but on her own with Emily in 1881

- widowed in Stockport in 1891 (who else is in the household then?)

 - consistantly born in Bristol

Questions that remain unanswered......
Was the Philip Ennis she 'married' the same one as Jane Ann married in 1865? Only Clara didnt actually marry him cos he was already married, she just took the name and pretended.
What was her surname at birth and in childhood?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 22 September 07 21:33 BST (UK) »
Well,
        I tried to spare you all this, but here goes ( takes a deep breath).

       My Stepson is an Ennis. His Grandfather was Douglas Knowles Ennis, Douglas' sister was Emily Irene Knowles Ennis, their father was Edward Knowles Ennis, Present day Ennis' say all Ennis' were Edgeley folk.

On Edward's birth Cert. Mother Emily Ennis, Father is blank.
     
       On 1901 Census Mother Emily is Emily Knowles b 1872 LIVERPOOL, Father William Knowles, son is Edward Knowles. daughter Emily Irene Knowles.
It seems that Emily was not married to William, so children call themselves Knowles Ennis, when they grow up and marry etc.
(This cleared up an old Ennis family mystery, of why the name Knowles Ennis?.)
       
       In tracing William Knowles, I found his father and his siblings in Edgeley in 1891 ,  living 2 doors away from CLARA ENNIS, b. Bristol, age 42, no family, just 2 lodgers.
       In tracing a Clara Ennis possibly with a daughter Emily born 1870 Liverpool, there they were, in Liverpool. Clara b.Bristol
      In tracing the birth of an Emily Ennis 1870 Liverpool, I found Emily Caroline Ennis, Father Philip Ennis, mother Clara Jane Ennis formerly Currey

And that's where things are at the present. ( with me and you totally confused)

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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 22 September 07 21:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry, duplicate post corrected
Grahams of Netherby Hall: Garforths of Steeton Hall: Ellis of Bingley, Keighley,Bolton by Bowland and Liverpool.


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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 23 September 07 15:58 BST (UK) »

On Emily Caroline Ennis'  Birth Cert (1870) Beaufort Street, Toxteth Park.Liverpool,

Father, Philip Ennis is Steward of a Ship, so is probably away at Sea.

Clara Jane Ennis formerly Currey, Mother,


Steve

Are you a 100% certain that the mothers maiden name is Currey?
Could it be bad writing and really say something else.

Jane Ann Ennis nee Currie is easily traceable,back to her parents of William and Helen so is not the same person as Clara. So we really need Clara to have a different maiden name  ;D

If the writing is a bit iffey and you'd like a second...or third opinion,post a section of the cert on the Common Room board with a link to this post and see what other suggestions you get. ;D

All the best

Carol

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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 23 September 07 16:16 BST (UK) »
Also if Emily Caroline Ennis was born in the March 1/4 of 1870- how can she be the child age 2 on RG 10/3796, folio 141 page 3.

Head John Corless b 1809 in Lancashire.

She'd only just have been one- difficult to put her down as 2?

I'm not convinced the name even says Eleanor on that page,what do others think?

Carol
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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 23 September 07 17:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve

Thanks for posting all. that - at least we can follow your logic now.  I think there is a problem - just can't see what it is, lol!

I agree with Carol's  points - sight of the cert with CURREY would make believers of us (maybe!?!)

I have looked and looked!  Let's hope someone has some inspiration...

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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 23 September 07 18:08 BST (UK) »

Steve do you have the actual certificate ? if not - maybe the best thing to do - is post on the Lancashire board for somebody going to the RO !!

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Re: Clara Currey Meadminster 1848
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 23 September 07 22:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
             yes, I do have the actual Certificate and will try to post it in the common room (haven't a clue how to do it though) also it may take a day or so to get access to my sister's Scanner. As for "Eleanor's " age, maybe Clara and the child were not at home when the Enumerator called and John Corless just guessed ???  but then why "Daughter" and "Niece"?
        As for RG 10/3796, I must admit that the first letter looks nothing like an E to me, the "Ancestry" transcription said Eleanor but may be way off. However there remains the problem of where was 1 year old Emily?
I would put these all down to being totally different people, were it not for "Bristol". The trail from 1891 in Stockport, back to 1870 in Liverpool is founded on the Clara Ennis b. Bristol with a child Emily.

I must say I am really gratefull to you all for taking the time and trouble to help me, I myself am close to running out of ideas.

Best Regards,
                      Steve.
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