Gadd's census,1841-1901/or parish records,

[karenlee]

Having trouble finding Thomas GADD born about 1817, on any census.  Checked the FreeBMD, and there were a couple of deaths that could be him.

Here is what I can find on Mark's brother John :-

1861 Census England Staffordshire Wombourne
RG9/1986/13/21
Towns End

GADD
John Head Marr 41 Horse Nail Maker Worcester Oldswinford
Mary Wife Marr 33 Nail Forger Stafford Wombourne
William JONES Nephew Unmarr 11 Nail Forger Stafford Wombourne

1871 Census England Staffordshire Wombourne
RG10/2929/12/18
Towns End

GADD
John Head Marr 52 Nail Maker Worcester Oldswinford
Mary Wife Marr 43 Stafford Wombourne
William JONES Nephew Unmarr 21 Gardener Stafford Wombourne


1881 Census England Staffordshire Wombourne
RG11/2791/12/17
Towns End

GADD
John Head Marr 60 Nail Maker Oldswinford Worcester
Mary Wife Marr 52  Wombourne Stafford


Looks like John and Mary had no children that survived.

Can't find John in 1851 yet.

Karenlee

[karenlee]

Oaky

A few loose ends here for Mathew and Roseannah's kids after the Workhouse, that might help with a few more leads  :-

Pretty sure that this is the Hannah Maria refered to in the 1851 Census

1881 Census England Lancashire Royton
RG11/4096/16/26
35 Shaw Road

IRELAND
Thomas Head Marr 49 Carter Yorkshire
Ann M Wife Marr 39 Worcestershire
William Son Unmarr 19 Warehouseman Lancashire Croyden
Mary GADD Sister In Law Unmarr 25 Calico Weaver Stafford Quarry Bank
Sarah A GADD Sister In Law Unmarr 22 Cotton Mill Winder Staff Quarry Bank
Abigail GADD Sister In Law Unmarr 19 Fustian Weaver Staff Quarry Bank
Ada Jane RILEY Niece Uanmrr 20 Cotton Mill Winder Lancashire
Clare RILEY Niece Unmarr 17 Fustian Weaver Lancashire


1901 Census England Lancashire Royton
RG13/3827/103/5
145 Oldham Road

GADD
Mary Head Unmarr 46 Confectioner Shopkeeper Worcester Quarry Bank
Abigail Sister Unmarr 38 Confectioner Shopkeeper Worcester Quarry Bank

1881 Census England Lancashire Oldham Oldham Above Town
RG11/4081/76/36
107 Moorhey Street

MARSHALL
Mary Head Marr 50 Yorkshire Brentfield
Esther GADD Lodger Unmarr 24 Cotton Winder Staffordshire Quarry Bank
William TATE Lodger Unmarr 24 Joiner Yorkshire Huddersfield
Patrick CONNOR Lodger Unmarr 17 Cotton Piecer Ireland Mayo

1891 Census England Lancashire Royton
RG12/3321/114/12
132 Rochdale Road

ROGERS
Thomas Head Marr 38 Strapper and Grinder Staffordshire Darlaston
Nancy Wife Marr 39 Stocking Knitter Lancs Royton
Esther GADD Boarder Unmarr 33 Cotton Reeler Staffordshire Quarry Bank

Cheers
Karenlee

[Heberax]

Hi Karenlee,
                   i think you have it the nail, on the head so to speak, it seem that Rose Esther Sarah and Abigail some how ended up in the workhouse Stourbridge Kingswinford, but from your look ups seem to have worked there way out from there to be Confectioner shopkeepers, how i not yet sure but its, so interesting to have some sort of insight as to how they lived back then and gives me a path to follow, which might bring me to how my father came to wolverhampton, i know that my grandfather was John Edawrd Gadd, about 1895, born Sedgley Staffordshire,? i also have found his may have been, Heber/Eber, 1851whom married a woman i think was a Brittle, i have printed out your look up so far, and appreicate the help so much, i will now try and put all this info in to some sort of order to help form my tree, any more info is most welcome again thank you so much,
                                     Steve

[Heberax]

Hi Karenlee could i be so bold and ask if you have time to try and trace Heber Gadd 1851 and his children, from then till 1901, as this is the main trunk of my tree, i hope you dont think of me as being to cheeky, i have taken a look on ancestry free1881 census but am not very good at it, any marriage or death, plus birth, vol, or pages would all so be of great help so i can send for the certs, for them , i have be told this is a good way of finding out more about your family tree, many thanks,
                                               Steve

[karenlee]

Steve

Happy to have been able to provide the information for you. 

Must say that certificates are an essential piece of the puzzle, as they, unlike census entries, don't lie.  They are the proof that you need to show you are on the right track, so to speak.

Will be happy to look for Herber??or Herbert and trace him for you, both for BMD and census.  I may not get to it until later on today though.

Karenlee

[karenlee]

Hi again

I have about an hour before I need to head off to the other side of the City for an appointment, so here goes :-

Marriage Index

GADD Mark and HARPER Mary Ann Maria September Quarter 1848 Dudley 18 310

Birth Index

GADD Heber March Quarter 1851 Stourbridge 18 533
GADD John E December Quarter 1895 Dudley 6c 67

Death Index

GADD Mark June Quarter 1890 Dudley 6c 31
GADD Mary Ann M September Quarter 1906 Dudley 3c 39


Still looking for a marriage for Eber/Heber and Mary Ann BRETTLE.

There is a possible marriage for John Edward GADD in 1918 to a Florence  E M COLLEY December Quarter 1918 Dudley 6b 1702



This looks likely :-

1881 Census England Staffordshire Sedgley
RG11/2868/58/25
54 Castle Street

GADD
Eber Head Marr 30 Horse Nail Maker Quarry Bank Worcester
Mary Ann Wife Marr 28 Nail Maker Sedgley Stafford
Lucy Dau Unmarr 6 Scholar Sedgley Stafford
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 4 Scholar Sedgley Stafford
Henry Son Unmarr 2 Sedgley Stafford
Eber Son Unmarr 1 Sedgley Stafford


1891 Census England Staffordshire Sedgley
RG12/2287/53/21
Castle Street

GADD
Eber Head Marr 40 Iron Works Labourer Staff Quarry Bank
Mary A Wife Marr 39 Staff Sedgley
Lucy Dau Unmarr 16 Apprentice Nailor Staff Sedgley
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 14 Apprentice Nailor Staff Sedgley
Harry Son Unmarr 12 Scholar Staff Sedgley
Eber Son Unmarr 10 Scholar Staff Sedgley
Fred Son Unmarr 8 Scholar Staff Sedgley
Alice Dau Unmarr 7 Scholar Staff Sedgley
Levi Son Unmarr 4 Scholar Staff Sedgley
Violet A  Dau Unmarr 1 Staff Sedgley
William BRETTLE Visitor Unmarr 24 General Labourer Staff Ruiton

1901 Census England Staffordshire Sedgley
RG13/2738/56/2
8 Bilston Street

GADD
Eber Head Marr 50 Retired Stationary Engine Driver at Iron Works Worcester Quarry Bank
Mary A Wife Marr 49 Shopkeeper Confectioner Staff Sedgley
Henry Son Unmarr 22 Stationary Engine Driver Iron Works Staff Sedgley
Eber Son Unmarr 20 Labourer at Steel Works Staff Sedgley
Fred Son Unmarr 18 Driller at Boiler Works Staff Sedgley
Alice Dau Unmarr 17 Boot Fitter Staff Sedgley
Levi Son Unmarr 14 Iron Handle Maker Staff Sedgley
Florence M Dau Unmarr 7 Staff Sedgley
John E Son Unmarr 6 Staff Sedgley


Will think about where else I can look.

Cheers
Karenlee

[Heberax]

Karenlee those are the people alright i know that John Edward Gadd married Florence colley, as i was told that now i know the Vol i will be getting that cert for sure some time today as i have to go to town,

Any thing else on heber's children would now be the iceing on the cake for me, as what you have found so far as built my tree from me backwards to my great great grandfather Mark Gadd, that is the trunk of my tree and his sibling;s will be the branches, Hebers or Eber, 1851 kids are the mainbraches to, i have found out that the certs cost £7.oo pounds here which is well worth it, to pass on to my children, i think some Gadd's married brittle some Dunn, thanks again and have a nice day, i will let you know how i go on with the certs,
                                                    Many thanks for all your time and hard work, with the searching you are doing for me, if at any time in the future i can help you in any way please ask, i live in wolverhampton uk staffs if you have relatives here or had any and you need some pictures of the churches or grave yards here i will find and take them for as i often go round them for reference,
                                         Kind Regards
                                          Steve

[karenlee]

Many thanks for the kind offer Steve.  I will keep it in mind.

I will have a look tonight for Heber's children and see what turns up.   There may be some reference to some of the GADD family on the National Archives site.... wills, military service, etc.

If you want any more on the children of Mark GADD's siblings just let me know.

Happy to have been able to help.

Cheers
Karenlee

[karenlee]

Hi Steve

Just to digress slightly away from the GADD line, I think that this may be Florence E M COLLEY.

Birth COLLEY Florence Ethel M June Quarter 1899  Wolverhampton 6b 618

Of Eber and Mary Ann's children I have been able to find the following possibles  :-

Marriage

GADD Levi September Quarter 1910 Wolverhampton 6b 1043 to either Mary A HICKMAN or Martha E SLATER

GADD Alice September Quarter 1909 Dudley 6c 145 maybe to Arthur Thomas WILCOX

GADD Frederick March Quarter 1904 Dudley 6c 24 to either Fanny HANDLEY or Bertha JACKSON

Death

GADD Violet December Quarter 1892 Dudley 6c 41 aged 3 years


1901 Census England Staffordshire Wolverhampton
RG13/2674/106/3
189 Lea Road

In the household of Mary A GILES

GADD Lucy Servant Unmarr 25 General Domestic Servant Sedgley Staff


Cannot find Elizabeth GADD as yet on the 1901 Census.

I will check the Archives site.

Karenlee