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Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« on: Wednesday 19 September 07 19:32 BST (UK) »
Am attempting to trace a Donald McPhee who emigrated from his native home in South Uist or Benbecula bound for Cape Breton, NS about the year 1827 or 1828.  There are several possibilities that help identify this particular Donald McPhee among many others of that surname at that time and in that area.  Quite likely, “my” Donald is married to a Mary MacLean and lived in small settlement in South Uist known as ‘Garryfluich’; their records might be in the area known as  ‘Iochdar’ and the parish of Ardkenneth.  Based on his story here in Canada, Donald McPhee was born in South Uist about 1795.  My quest now is to try to confirm the identity of my Donald McPhee and, if at all possible, to learn the names of his parents.  If there is anyone who could offer advice or suggestions I would indeed be grateful.

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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 September 07 00:02 BST (UK) »
All of the placenames you mention are in the Civil Parish, and Established Church of Scotland Parish of South Uist and Benbecula. As with many of the island parishes, the records do not go that far back. The Old Parochial Registers (OPRs) for the South Uist part of that parish don't go any further back than 1839 for marriages. There are no birth OPRs at all for South Uist - thus no records until civil registration started in 1855.

However there is another option. South Uist is predominantly Roman Catholic, so it may be that you have to seek Roman Catholic church records. I am unsure where best to turn for these records - the church, the diocese or the National Archives of Scotland. Ardkenneth is a Roman Catholic parish - the Church is St Michael's.

In your searching you may need the Gaelic spelling of the places.
Uibhist a Deas = South Uist
Iochdar = Eoch(d)ar
Aird Choinnich = Ardkenneth
no sign of Garryfluich, but in general Gearraidh... = Garry...

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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you, ADP.  I appreciate your considerate answer and your additional help supplying the Gaelic spelling of these placenames.  [I blush to think of the blunders I make sometimes of even English spelling.  When it comes to Gaelic -- yikes!]  And of course you are right: my McPhee / MacLean ancestors were Roman Catholic, and I know it is almost impossible to get anything from those records, especially as early as 1820s.  I am a little hopeful, however, that I might find some cemetery or burial records in South Uist that would indicate the possible parents for this couple who left at that early date.  My Donald McPhee died 'over here' in 1878 at age 84 (b. 1794); his wife, Mary MacLean, gave birth to two children in Cape Breton: Donald John (1828) and Christy (1831), before she apparently died and Donald married again later in the 1830s.  Possibly the Scottish naming pattern might indicate that Donald's father was a John McPhee in the area of (gulp!) Gearraidh Fliuch.  So, my need is for suggestions and advice as to the chances for local Catholic burial records in South Uist.  Again, thanks for your response to my initial inquiry.

Helen 

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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 October 07 23:59 BST (UK) »
ADP thanks for posting that information. I have been looking at a 1861 marriage in Howmore district South Uist and have been stratching my head over the place where the marriage took place and that is it-Ardkenneth. I had been searching an old map but I guess a parish name wouldn't necessarily be on it.
A fluke as I haven't been to this forum for ages.
A question; the brides usual residence was Buldher or Buldha, or Ouldha. Do you know what it may be? 
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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 October 07 07:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Dollard,

There is no good match for Buldher or Buldha, or Ouldha. The nearest that I saw was Boisdale (Baghasdail). That is at the other end of the island from Ardkenneth. Looking at various maps, there is nothing local to Ardkenneth (Aird Choinnich) or Howmore (Tobha Mor) that looks hopeful.

Can you find any sign of the bride's family on the censuses? That could give you another offering of the placename in different handwriting.

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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 October 07 17:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the census suggestion. I have now tried looking for the bride's family on the census but that didn't get anywhere. I did find the new bride and her husband on the 1861 census and they are at Balrosva but that doesn't help either.
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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Have only just spotted this exchange but, just in case it is still and issue, Buldha or whatever you were seeing was Bualdhu in Iochdar at the time on te shore of the South Ford between South Uist and Benbecula and today quite close to the causeay connecting the two islands. Hope that may help someone.
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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Have only just spotted this exchange but, just in case it is still and issue, Buldha or whatever you were seeing was Bualdhu in Iochdar at the time on te shore of the South Ford between South Uist and Benbecula and today quite close to the causeay connecting the two islands. Hope that may help someone.

Ahh. I can find that one on an old OS map as Buaile-dhubh. It is a short distance south-east(ish) of the top-centre of the map.

http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch/view/?sid=74426999

It is also on the modern OS map.

Modern OS map showing Buaile Dhubh

Or on Google maps streetview - see what it looks like.

Google maps streetview showing Bualadubh

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Re: Iochdar Records Uist (South)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Angusm and ADP thank you very much for locating the place I was looking for.
Burns, McCormick, Hunter, and Allen in Ulster.
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