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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #81 on: Saturday 15 June 13 08:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks Karren,

I'll pop your relly into my db, and investigate Rice Mills...Mrs. Miller will be glad to see another source of interest for Mr. Miller!

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #82 on: Monday 09 December 13 22:03 GMT (UK) »
George Vincent (b1804, Fressingfield) journeyman miller in Brundish in 1841 and then in Bradfield, Essex in 1851.

I'm not sure where he moved next.

Thanks for a fascinating thread.

Malcolm
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #83 on: Monday 09 December 13 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Malcolm,

Got a few of yours in my db...
James Vincent (miller) 1800-1808  Hintlesham
Robert Vincent (miller) 1841  Diss
John Vincent (miller) 1874  Bramfield
Charles Vincent (miller) 1844  Brundish
Richard Vincent (miller) 1879 Mendlesham
James Vincent (miller) 1891  Metfield
John Vincent (miller) 1883-1888  Metfield
A. N. Vincent (miller) 1929  Thelnetham
Yoh Vincent (miler) 1823  Hadleigh

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info on George...He's in my db now!

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 10 December 13 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Windy,
I'm particularly interest in any info you have on Charles Vincent in Brundish 1844 as it looks as though my gggrandfather either joined him there or perhaps took over milling?

Having just said that, I ought to know better than assume anything when it comes to family trees :'(

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Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 10 December 13 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Brundish, Suffolk 1841 census page 10

Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #86 on: Wednesday 11 December 13 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for the names...bagged them now.
Green & Philpot were both at Green's Mill.  Philpot died shortly after the census as he was described as "dec'd" in 1842.

Your Vincent was at Buckingham's Mill (if he was your man).  Are there any other names associated with the mill George was working at in 1841?  They could confirm it was Buckkingham's.

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #87 on: Wednesday 11 December 13 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Yes, George Vincent is my 2xGreat grandfather. There are no other millers on the page. The family are the entry before Yew Tree House on the eastern side of the village along "The Thoroughfare". You have a Charles Vincent there in 1844 but that isn't a descendant of George whose eldest child was born in 1830 and there's no record of a Charles in the direct line.

George moved on into Essex for the 1851 census when he's a journeyman miller in Bradfield.

Any information on Buckingham's Mill will be most gratefully received.

Kind regards,
Malcolm Vincent
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #88 on: Wednesday 11 December 13 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Malcolm,

I cannot confirm that George was at Buckingham, though it looks like Charles was.  If they were not related there is no reason George was there.

Millers I have in Brundish at this time were...Philpot, Green & Kemp (slightly earlier were a Mr. Cook & Randall).

I have check another milling db I have (not completed) on Baps in all Suffolk's parishes where father was a miller (1813 to about 1850 only) and have the following additional Vincents.

Palgrave 1851 Thomas & Emma Vincent (son Wm. & dau. Rosa)
Hadleigh 1838 James & Maria Vincent (dau. Maria)
Brundish 1829 George Vincent m. Charlotte Cook
Brundish 1831 George & Charlotte Vincent (son George)
Brundish 1832 George & Charlotte Vincent (dau. Maria)
Brundish 1834 George & Charlotte Vincent (son John)
Brundish 1838 George & Charlotte Vincent (dau. Hannah & Eliza)

Not sure if any of these are yours?  If they are and you have any maiden names (marriage dates, etc.) then that would be excellent as millers tended to marry into the trade.

Cheers,
Windy
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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #89 on: Thursday 12 December 13 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Wow! You have given me the maiden name of George Vincent's wife (Charlotte Cook) so thank you.

George 1831 was in Stradbroke workhouse in 1851 and a miller in Plaistow, Essex in 1861 and then at another mill in Ferry Lane, Rainham , Essex in 1871. He returns to Plaistow in 1881 and ended his days in West Ham Workhouse in 1901. Neither of his two sons became millers.

John 1833 became a shoemaker and "emigrated" to Birkenhead.

Maria went into service remained single all her life.

Hannah also went into service and married in London.

Eliza also ended up in Plaistow/West Ham married to a mariner.

I guess that craft millers had become a thing of the past by the end of the century?

Many, many thanks,
Malcolm

p.s. I suspect that the Charles connection will emerge once I get to the record office in Ipswich. Do you have his age ?
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
gedmatch.com A006809
Kit uploaded to familytreedna.com B171041
Y-DNA R-M269 & mtDNA U5b1f