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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 22:21 BST (UK) »
I can see a James Lambert, age 25, occupation Ag Lab, with a Mary Lambert, age 25 and Mary Lambert, age 1. Address is Mill Corner, Leiston Blything.

A Mary Ann Lambert's birth was registered Mar Qtr 1840, Blything - mother Sheppard. A Henry James Lambert was registered Jun Qtr 1852, Blything - mother Sheppard.

Think James appears as a Carter in subsequent Censuses - in 1891, age 78, "living on own means".

Do you have a Census reference for "James Lambert, miller" living at "Mill House"?


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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 22:45 BST (UK) »
No .James  Lambert was there in 1841 ...check the 1841 census.  Leiston.Check his occupation
I have it all written down in one of my books.
Somewhere. At my age memory is not as it was.
He may well have been a carter working for his father who may have been a James Lambert.
Yes Mill corner rings a bell.
Sadly the site I put all my findings is no longer in existence
And inhaave only this little book on which I jotted notes.

 James was born1815
Mary was 20
The baby was Mary and there was  an Abigail
Saunders aged 80
And Mary Shepherd aged 40.
But they lived at the Mill House , Mill Corner.
I did not know James was a miller until the Bible came to light.

I wonder if James Lambert's father was a miller there before that?
The newspaper article was interesting but I could see no date.



James was James... Henry James was Hj.

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 22:56 BST (UK) »
Yes it is more likely James was a carter or an age lab. I was very surprised to find him as a Miller.
How could a carter or ag lab be of independent means?
No pensions then?


Who was  the
James Lambert  .miller
Why were they living at the mill hou

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #111 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 23:11 BST (UK) »
Yes that is all correct.
Dates. People etc etc.

" A Lambert family bible dated 1836 The Mill house Leiston was found and a search and a for a descendent results in the bible being sent to  descendents of Audrey Vanstone ( who was born  June. 1897 and died  July 1986)  housekeeper to Allen Lambert of the  Mill House  Leiston who was named in his will . "


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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #112 on: Thursday 15 August 24 05:08 BST (UK) »
Here is a reference to an early windmill, in Polstead, Suffolk. This is from Common Pleas, Easter term 1308:
Suff. Margaret who was the wife of Edmund de Polstede versus John de Tendryng for a third part of 160 acres of arable land, 50 acres of meadow and one windmill ("molendin ventrith" or molendinum ventriticum) with appurtenances in Polstede, (and others for others properties), which she claims as her dower.

second entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E2/CP40no170/bCP40no170dorses/IMG_0118.htm

Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 15 August 24 09:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Hanes Teulu,

Keeping well I trust.

I have this bit of info, but it seems that it unlikely to have been a chap millering back in 1841 (though it could be, but he would be PRETTY old).  Lola5 has James Lambert in Leiston as a miller in 1841.  I can see nothing in my database on him, if it is him, till 1894.  No doubting Lola5's info, but strange there is nothing else.

Windy

"Henry James Lambert" appears in the article below (Framlingham Weekly News, 13 Aug 1893) as James Lambert and is very probably the subject of my earlier newspaper snippet.
I believe Henry James' and Adam's father James can be found on the '41-'91 Censuses - but never as a miller. Death reported in the Evening Star, 1 Feb, age 85, address Sizewell Road.

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #114 on: Thursday 15 August 24 10:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you hanes teulu and windy.
So only Henry James Lambert was the miller there. Sometimes known as James..... So was HJ the one who had the accident with the cart...or was there yet an older James Lambert I wonder. Who had the Mil before.
Doesn't.t matter really as all dead and the mill has gone.

The Lambert  bible was 1836... The Mill House.

Wonder how old the mill was .
Wonderful to read those newspaper snippets. Ties in with
some things  .






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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #115 on: Thursday 15 August 24 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Vance,

These Medieval snippets are really interesting.  I have similar from 1305 (I've lost reference but I think its an Inquisition Post-mortem which also references John de Tendring (age 22) , heir and son of William.

For the link I think I'll need to brush up on Latin. :) but I can make out the mill reference in the script.

Very tantalizing!  From the Apportionment records I have not been able to find a nailed-on site; no "Mill Mount" fields, but may be one day I'll locate it.

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Re: Windmill Millers of Suffolk
« Reply #116 on: Thursday 15 August 24 11:03 BST (UK) »
Good.  It seems we have resolved the Lambert's at Leiston Mill!

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