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Looking for HAMILTON family
« on: Saturday 15 September 07 16:29 BST (UK) »
Researching: Beatrix/Trixi Victoria Hamilton (nee Shubart) b/1897 India,
perants: David & Elizabeth Shubart.
Went to Australia Victoria about 1920s,
Don't know husbands name, or when/where marriad, had a son Ian (maybe more children).
Owned Milk Bars, and then Motel business.
Thank you for any help, Belle
EADON:         Birmingham, Sheffield, India.
SHUBART:      Ireland, Devon, India,
LEE:              Guernsey, Devon. Leicestershire,
CASELEY:       Devon,Guernsey.
MONAGHAN:   Ireland,Devon,India, Lancashire,
CROXFORD:    Guernsey,
COPELAND:    Wales, India, Devon.
LUCIETT:        Ireland, Devon,Sussex.
MOREY:           London,  India.

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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 September 07 00:48 BST (UK) »
Belle,
Do you have this marriage :

Son of David Shubart & Elizabeth Ann  Lee.

Marriage:
David Stanley Shubart.
m: 1934/11060
to: Katherine Frances Olorenshaw.
Place: Victoria. AU

Death's:
David Stanley
died:1975/7608.
Death Place: MAVL.
Age: 76 y.
Born: 1899.

Thomas Edgar Shubart.
Died: 1952/4231.
Death Place: L Pool.
Age:51 y
Born: 1901
The same Perants as above.
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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 September 07 01:43 BST (UK) »
For those who have not already noted it, here is one of Belle's previous threads about her SHUBART family.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,213924.0.html

This particular thread gives the details of where BEATRIX fits into the family as the sister of someone she already has good information on.

Now, all we have to try to do is find her details as Mrs HAMILTON.

Belle,
Where did you discover the info. about Milkbars and Motels?
Any idea of places in Victoria?
Sue 
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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 September 07 07:33 BST (UK) »
Sue/sparrett,

Many thanks for alerting us to other threads - saves lots of duplication and wasted time.

If only RootsChatters seeking information would provide cross-references to other relevant threads, and summarise all the information they already have ...

JAP


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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 September 07 10:46 BST (UK) »

Hi,
   After my last thread on the Shubarts the grandson of Thomas Edgar Shubart got in touch,he came across my post after Goggling his mothers  maiden name Shubart, daughter of Thomas,who is still alive,but does not use the computer. The infomation came from her, but that is all she knows,maybe Melbourne. Belle

My apologies for not pointing out the thread that had been done before,I was not intending to wast peoples time Jap,I will bear it in mind in future,consider my wrist slapped. :'(
EADON:         Birmingham, Sheffield, India.
SHUBART:      Ireland, Devon, India,
LEE:              Guernsey, Devon. Leicestershire,
CASELEY:       Devon,Guernsey.
MONAGHAN:   Ireland,Devon,India, Lancashire,
CROXFORD:    Guernsey,
COPELAND:    Wales, India, Devon.
LUCIETT:        Ireland, Devon,Sussex.
MOREY:           London,  India.

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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 September 07 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Belle,

Now, from memory the term "Motel" did not appear until the  1960's in Victoria and was a.... ''stop-over with car space[ MO  ....for motoring?...] between destinations.
Meant to be convenient as an alternative to the local hotel.

Some of your other Shubart people were in Melbourne, so it is possible that the extended family all settled here.

There were some Motels in Melbourne, but more usually they were in country areas. and still are. Just some observations.

It must have been exciting to be contacted by  the grandson.

Sue




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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 September 07 11:32 BST (UK) »
Belle,

I too searched the Victorian Deaths CD - as had OzyBob and no doubt several other RootsChatters.  But didn't get anything more.  Though do note that it only goes up to 1985.  I tried all people with surname, or father's name, or mother's maiden name SHUBART (and with variants and wildcards).  Tried HAMILTON with various combinations of parents and various versions of Beat* or Trix*, etc, etc.

If you can tease out any further information from your relatives, it just might help.

As Sue says, that was a great result to be contacted by Thomas Edgar's grandson - one of the benefits of researching an uncommon name!

JAP
PS: Please understand that drawing attention to the need for provision of full information (especially information already held) and cross-referencing to other relevant threads, is definitely not a matter of wrist-slapping.
If a person who posts a query does this, it helps that person to get the best possible result.
It also leads to the best use of helpful RootsChatters' time (as you can see above, information which you already had has been looked up, typed out, and posted again by a helpful RootsChatter). 

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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 September 07 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Just been over the info that came via daughter of Thomas (very vague ) bearing in mind she was 2 in 1948 her father died 4 years later.
On arrival in Melbourne they stayed with Beatrix in a bunglow for a year then moved up country (her words),and more or less lost contact. She also says Beatrix did not have a husband at this time?. In 1948 Beatrix would have been 46.
She also says that she went into the Motel business with her son Ian and wife (no name) maybe it was her sons business, is it possible to find her sons (Ian) birth or marriage?

Could try and extract more info from Thomas's family but will take some time.

Yes it was a surprise to hear from a direct link to the Shubarts, also had photos of some of the siblings and one of g-grandfather and discovered another g-aunt.

Don't know if any of this helps ??? Belle
EADON:         Birmingham, Sheffield, India.
SHUBART:      Ireland, Devon, India,
LEE:              Guernsey, Devon. Leicestershire,
CASELEY:       Devon,Guernsey.
MONAGHAN:   Ireland,Devon,India, Lancashire,
CROXFORD:    Guernsey,
COPELAND:    Wales, India, Devon.
LUCIETT:        Ireland, Devon,Sussex.
MOREY:           London,  India.

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Re: Looking for Hamilton family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 September 07 03:02 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
This might help with what Belle is looking for don't know:
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Coble or Covell, Coule Australia, Canada, USA  @ England.
Barker Australia @ England
Walker Australia, England @ South America.
Bristol Australia @ England.
Nash Australia @ England.