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Trafford Surname
« on: Friday 14 September 07 16:41 BST (UK) »
Can any one help with tracing JOHN TRAFFORD(1796) born HORSPATH. I am trying to get information about one of his children THOMAS TRAFFORD (1831) I know THOMAS married ELIZA KENT in 1853, and I know his father was a JOHN but I need confirmation that this is him so that I can continue on the correct line of my tree.
Any help gratefully received

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Re: Trafford Surname
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 September 07 17:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Dot,

The Horspath PRs have the following baptism -

Apr 24 1796 John Trafford s/o John & Charlotte

I can't find a marriage for this John Trafford in Horspath prior to when Thomas was baptised in 1831 -

Aug 3 1831 Thomas Trafford s/o John, lab & Anne

I looked for Thomas' siblings so that would give you an idea of when John & Anne married -

July 10 1814 John s/o John, lab & Ann (buried Aug 14 1814)
Nov 12 1815 Henry   "       "
Dec 21 1817 Sarah d/o     "      "
Feb 6 1820 Alice   "    "
Jan 13 1822 John    "     "
Dec 14 1823 Frederick     "     "
Jan 21 1827 Eliza    "     "
July 13 1828 Anne    "     "
Jan 12 1834 George     "     "
Sep 6 1835 Emily     "        "
Feb 5 1837 Jane d/o John, husbandman & Ann

Phew! I think that's finally the lot!

So, you're looking for a John/Ann marriage around 1812-14. Hope this helps.

Jill




HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: Trafford Surname
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 September 07 20:31 BST (UK) »
Jill
Thanks very much for this information. I really think this could be the link I have been searching for.
One other question for you, if you don't mind.
Can you find out who Thomas was married too. If this is the family line I am looking for it should be that he married ELIZA KENT in 1853.
Much appreciated.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 September 07 21:52 BST (UK) »
Sorry - all I can tell you is that Thomas & Eliza didn't marry in Horspath. Other than that, it's 'needle in a haystack time'.

You obviously know his wife's maiden name - how did you get hold of that information? Did it not give you any clues as to where they married?

Jill
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 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 September 07 22:05 BST (UK) »
Jill

I have got their marriage certificate. It has Headington as parish. That is why I know Thomas's father's is John.
I need to know if your John is the one I am trying to find.
So I really need to find out if your Thomas married Eliza.
Sorry to be a pain.
Thanks

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 September 07 22:56 BST (UK) »
I get it!

I think you must be on the right lines. If you look on the 'Information' part of FreeBMD, it confirms that Horspath was in the registration district of Headington. Horspath is only about 4 miles from Headington.

Plus - I've just double checked and I can't find a marriage for a Thomas Trafford in Horspath - to anyone!

So, I'd say you've found your Traffords. What was Thomas's father John's occupation on the marriage certificate? Hopefully, labourer or husbandman!

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: Trafford Surname
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 September 07 09:08 BST (UK) »
Jill

It looks like occupation a BAKER.  Do you still think this could be the correct John?
Can you let me kow what you think please.
Again thanks for your help.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 September 07 13:59 BST (UK) »
Well, I suppose its not beyond the realms of possibility that a labourer could become a baker in later life, but it doesn't really seal the deal, does it?

I notice that by 1837 when Thomas's youngest sibling Jane was baptised, John (the father) is described as a husbandman, so he's either gone up in the world a bit or likes to think he has!!  :-\

I seem to remember reading somewhere along the line ( can't remember where!) that some small farmers would mill their own flour and bake their own bread, so it's possible!

It's a pity that Jane was born just before civil registration was introduced, or you could have sent for her birth cert.

I think - if you haven't already - you need to see if you can find John & Ann  - and Thomas - on the 1841 & 1851 censuses. There's a good chance they might both be still alive.

I'll take another look at the Horspath PRs and see if I can find burial dates for John & Ann and then, if they died after Sep 1837 you could perhaps send for their death certs.

I'll get back to you.

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 September 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
It looks as if you might be in luck - census wise. As far as I can tell, both John and Ann didn't die until the mid 1860s, so there's 3 censuses that you could find them on and see if John's occupation changed at all.

The burials are;

Nov 27 1864 John Trafford aged 70

Mar 19 1865 Ann Trafford aged 72 (died in London).

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.