Jenner family in Kent

[Debwilson1967]

Hi
I am very stuck with my husband's family who came from Kent.  Caroline Frances Jenner was age 22 when she married Edward Percival Benson in 1888.  Her father was called Thomas Little Jenner and he was a carman.  I can only find them on the 1871 census where she is living in Southwark, London.
It says Caroline was age 5 and born in Middlesex but her father, Thomas, was born in Bredgar, Kent.  Her mother, Matilda, was born in Herne.  I can find no other trace of them in the census returns.  I have done an IGI search and found a George Jenner & Mary Fisher with several children including a Thomas born 1839, all born in Bredgar.  There is also a daughter Caroline and another called Frances which led me to believe that this was the right family but an IGI search for marriages shows a George Jenner married to a Mary Little in 1816 in Rochester and that makes me think is that Thomas's parents because his middle name is given as little.

Can anyone help?  Would be really grateful

Debbie 

[PaulineJ]

Did the couple have other kids on that 1871 entry/

pauline

[PaulineJ]

suspect that Matilda'a maiden name was whelan (jun 1840 freebmd entry) and 1861 census...


I can also see Matilda Jenner in 1901. Parish Of St George The Martyr Southwark, she appears to be a widow.

Pauline

[PaulineJ]

so that we can see just who you are considering, will you reproduce the IGI family for us to see?

Pauline

[Sisterjane]

Hi

This looks like a possible for Rosetta

Indexed as TEMNER but defo looks like JENNER on the original image.

RG11/523-Folio33-Page 5

[Debwilson1967]

Hi
thanks to everyone
the 1871 census has Thomas Jenner, wife Matilda and children George, age 7, Caroline age 5, Rosetta age 3 and Henry 11 months

the IGI has George Jenner & Mary Fisher with the following children
Thomas 1817 buried 1817
Sarah 1818
George 1820
Ann 1824
Caroline 1827
Frances 1831
Elizabeth 1833 died 1833
Mary Ann 1834, died 1835
Edward John 1836
Thomas 1839

Cheers 

[casalguidi]

Hi Debbie

Where did Caroline Frances marry?  Is there an address for her on the certificate?  Who were the witnesses?

Where were the family living at the time of the 1871 census and does it give a full birthplace for any of the children?

I think there is a Thomas LITTLE age 22 b.Bredgar in the 1861 census at Pancras (Middlesex/London) but I don't have the full details

Does the marriage certificate of Caroline give her father's full name as Thomas Little JENNER?

I would be very wary of that IGI entry for Thomas JENNER 1839 Bredgar as it is an entry submitted by another researcher (like you or I) and not necessarily 100% correct ie. no mention of LITTLE so I think we need to try and find some other references to try and establish a little more about them.

Casalguidi

[Debwilson1967]

HI
Caroline & Edward were married in the parish of Christ Church, Southwark, Surrey.
Caroline lived at 8 Isabelle Street and her father is given as Thomas Little Jenner, occupation carman.
The marriage was witnessed by Thomas Jenner and Cecilia Caroline Benson (who was Edward's sister)
I have since found Matilda Jenner on 1901 census she was a widow living in the parish of St Jude, Southwark, born Herne Village, Kent.
1871 census shows them in parish of St Saviour, Southwark 23 Jane Street


Thomas Jenner age 38, caramn, born Bredgar Kent
Matilda    "          "    29                   "   Herne, Kent
George T  "          "   7    scholar      "   Paddington, Middlesex
Caroline F  "        "    5       "            "    Clerkenwell,     "
Rosetta      "        "    3                     "         ?              Surrey
Henry W     "         "  11 months                  ?                 "
Gayler Swain Nephew  age 17  warehouse boy       Herne Kent


Thanks for your help
best wishes
Debbieb

[welsh lady]

Think youre going to have to get Thomas and Matildas marriage cert for Fathers names and occupations.
But only one i can find so far  is below

Thomas Jenner to(on same page) a possible  Matilda Fletcher in Qtr June 1868 West Ham vol 4a Page  53

If that is them they married after some of their children were born?

Welsh Lady