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My Family Wall ....
« on: Wednesday 12 September 07 23:54 BST (UK) »
Taking advantage of the 'Heritage Days' last weekend, I visited a hall and grounds, which once belonged to the Bowes-Lyons and is now owned by the National Trust.  My greatest interest with the estate was that some of my ancestors had lived, worked and died there, so I was eager to visit (again).

I was having a lovely day, seeing all the places and buildings my family had once lived.  While having a break in the sunshine, we were approached by a National Trust Volunteer, who enquired if we had travelled far and if it was our first visit.  Of course, I just HAD to tell her that my ancestors had once lived in these historic buildings and of course she asked their surnames ...............

Next thing we are being taken upstairs inside one of these buildings, to a part not accessible to the public.  Wow!!!!  there in front of me was a wall, which has been 'found', where people have written their names, with dates from the late 1800's and even the time of day against some dates and most of these names were MY FAMILY!!!  Four, possibly five different surnames appear on this wall, all branches from the same family.  What a discovery - I am still in absolute shock  :o :o :o !  We were allowed to take photographs and this picture is just a small area of it and although the date appears to be '97' this would be 1897.  I need some suggestions as to what the words are before Stark and Maugham - I have an inkling, but as it might be wishful thinking on my part, would like some other opinions.






Brumby and Cheeseman (Louth, Lincs)
Brumby, Clark, Smith & Young (Sunderland, Co.Durham)
Cowing, Foster, Hudspith, Kilgour, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle & Robinson (Northumberland)
Douglas, Laurence, McQueen, Moffat & Pringle (Scotland)
Hall, Harding (Hollinside), Maugham/Maughan & McQueen (Whickham, Co.Durham)
Oliver & Stark (Co.Durham, Northumberland & Scotland)

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Re: My Family Wall ....
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:02 BST (UK) »
How wonderful for you!  :D

I would say Jno. Maugham (short for John) but not sure about Stark, possibly a short form of George although the first letter looks more like the S of Stark - do your photos include any other definite capital G s?

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Re: My Family Wall ....
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that suggestion Barbara ..... never thought about John and yes, there was a John Maugham in that time frame, so a good possibility  ;D .  Unfortunately, that is the only area of the wall I have in that particular handwriting. 

As far as the Stark goes, was thinking more on the lines of a shortened version of a title, as opposed to a christian name, as can see what appears to be a : after the letters.  Do agree that the first letter appears to be 'S' though!

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Brumby and Cheeseman (Louth, Lincs)
Brumby, Clark, Smith & Young (Sunderland, Co.Durham)
Cowing, Foster, Hudspith, Kilgour, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle & Robinson (Northumberland)
Douglas, Laurence, McQueen, Moffat & Pringle (Scotland)
Hall, Harding (Hollinside), Maugham/Maughan & McQueen (Whickham, Co.Durham)
Oliver & Stark (Co.Durham, Northumberland & Scotland)

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:25 BST (UK) »
It looks to me like Serj Stark, as in Sergeant  :-\
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Re: My Family Wall ....
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:40 BST (UK) »
I LOVE your story justmej! How exciting!

Can't help with the "translation" sorry, but I thought "S" too.

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 September 07 00:56 BST (UK) »
Madpants - just brilliant  ;) !!!!  Just what I was hoping someone would come up with, my thoughts exactly - he was indeed a policeman and went on to become a Superintendent, but before I got too excited that it was my G.Grandfather's name, thought I would ask for some suggestions from others.

Now the Maugham, although Barbara has suggested Jno. as short for John and this is probably correct, can anyone see any other possiblity besides Jno.?

And thanks for your comments Ruskie ..... I'm just SOooooo delighted!!!!!  I might not have a family bible, but there's a family wall, owned by the National Trust  ;) .

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Brumby and Cheeseman (Louth, Lincs)
Brumby, Clark, Smith & Young (Sunderland, Co.Durham)
Cowing, Foster, Hudspith, Kilgour, Patterson, Pattinson, Pringle & Robinson (Northumberland)
Douglas, Laurence, McQueen, Moffat & Pringle (Scotland)
Hall, Harding (Hollinside), Maugham/Maughan & McQueen (Whickham, Co.Durham)
Oliver & Stark (Co.Durham, Northumberland & Scotland)

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 September 07 01:11 BST (UK) »


How about Leo ????  ..... I agree about the Serj !!

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 September 07 03:48 BST (UK) »
Justmej,

Just wondering what room was it that your ancestors wrote their names? And do you know why? Was it just names and dates? (like a time capsule or a bit of early 19th century graffiti)

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 September 07 10:21 BST (UK) »
I think it's Jno.  The only other thing I could make out of it would be Iro, which would be a weird name!

And I THINK it's Serg, not Serj, for what it's worth!

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