Mossley Cemetary MI's - Mallalieu

[madpants]

Thanks Tony,
They do like to take their time don't they? 

Hi Annie,
Unfortunately I don't think he's one of mine, would be nice though 

[tony h]

Hi Tessa,
Never did get an answer from Tameside, do you want me to put it on my 2008 To Do list?

In the meantime is Second Lieutenant Joseph Mallalieu, died Calais 6\11\1917, from Mossley one of yours? If so I saw a photo and obituary for him yesterday in M\c Library?

Best wishes
Tony

[madpants]

Hi Tony, Thank you for remembering this!! 

Please, if you would ask Tameside again I'd be very grateful.

There is a strong possibility that Joseph is mine, especially if his parents are named as Clement and Nancy. (Clement is my Samuel B's brother  ) but I'd love a copy if possible,

many thanks, hugs and kisses for your effort 

and happy New Year 

[tony h]

Hi Tessa
  I'll be so happy if he turns out to be one of yours, or for that matter anybody's I spotted him in the Gorton Reporter (for reference publication date 17 November 1917) Mossley man and Mallalieu stood out immediately. I had a fair bit of work to get through so just noted  down the name and date so I could get back to him if need be. There's about ten column inches inc photo. He was much admired and a talented sportsman. He died from wounds in hospital in Calais, and I think his wife made the trip to see him shortly before he died, although my memory might be playing up I read so many of those b***** awful stories yesterday

This is him, Son of Joseph, husband of Jessie
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=471212

Even if he turns out not to be one of yours I'll post him up here for others to find him. I'll get full details next week.

Have a great New Year

Tony
 

[madpants]

Hi Tony,

I do have a Joseph born 1852, so could quite easily be this Joseph's father, unfortunately all i have is the name and date so I'll have to investigate as to whether he's my Joseph.

Thank you for all your help and I look forward to seeing what you've found 

[tony h]

I had a beautiful day out today, thank you so much for inspiring it. I woke early with nothing ahead of me, to a fantastic spring morning and wondered what to do with the day. Lots of work and DIY to do but the day was too beautiful for that. A walk in the country was the best bet, and why not look up the Mallalieus in Mossley as a bonus. I checked your map of Mossley Cemetery, had a look at Google Earth and thought, Oh dear! not much left there. Nevertheless a promise made is a promise kept. I breakfasted on a fried egg on fried bread with a large black coffee. All of the things I avoid nowadays but a feast set for an adventurer.

My Dad and Mum, used to go for days out when they were courting, and my Dad used to say to her 'next bus' and they could end up anywhere. I decided to do the same today as I wasn't confident of finding your Mallalieus as Google Earth showed the location to be bare.

So I set off with my Dad's motto, a jam butty in my pocket, a bottle of water, and an account of the 1933 expedition to Everest by F.S.Smythe. (nobody should mention Fish  and Chip Shops at this point)  Out of the house, I 'skipped' to the bus stops as I had jokingly challenged somebody else to do this earlier, and thought, well at least I can try it. Definitely recommended, who cares what people think?

So for the game,the title is 'Nextbus'

The nextbus took me fortunately south to Manchester Piccadilly, and the next one towards Ashton, a few miles short of Mossley, although I could have ended up in Stockport!

And then the Ashton bus looped around Ashton to the north and crossed the Mossley Rd where I got off to continue my nextbus journey to Mossley
Sure enough the nextbus got me there to Mossley. I got off in the centre and then had a 2 mile walk to the cemetery.

I got to the point on your map but as I feared from Google Earth there wasn't much there. The slope of the land was about 45 degrees!

But I found John James Mallieu! Puzzled by the word MIZPAH . I googled it with this result

In today's world, yet again and especially now MIZPAH, the legendary "Bodyguard" and Reminder on our core strengths has a lot to offer, even besides the fact of it being the ideal gift.
"MIZPAH is the blue thread of hope through the labyrinth of our modern world, the confident awareness of what really is important in life, a gentle yet resilliant shield against the growing emptiness." Helena Lind

The mystical word MIZPAH bears many messages, e.g. :
I am thinking of you
Take good care
Forgive me
I like you a lot
All will turn out well
Do not give in
There is hope
You mean so much to me
You are a wonderful person
God's speed
You are so special
etc. , etc. ...

MIZPAH says all in one single word.

Tony
x

I can't send the images tonite but I will tomrorow another way

[chinakay]

Mizpah is a word found often on tombstones, signifying longing for one who is departed. It comes from a place name in Gen 31:49: And Mizpah; for he said, The LORD watch between me and thee, when we are absent one from another.

Cheers,
China

[madpants]

Thank you for going Tony, I don't know where John James fits in apart from the fact he's there with Samuel and his family and has the same surname, hopefully the stone can shed some light on it 

I look forward to the images, you're a star 

[tony h]

Thanks China,
I can't get the photos up  yet

http://www.helenalind.com/mizpah.html

Tony