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Offline owen

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*completed*reet numbering
« on: Monday 10 September 07 03:17 BST (UK) »
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Hi all ,
can anyone tell me when and how street numbers came into being ?
in the 1800-1900s were odd numbers on  one side of the road and even on the other, the same method as today ?
regards
Owen.
Scotland .   McGowan ;   Wilkie :
London   .   Morgan ; McGowan ; Dash ; Day ;
Middlesex.  Powell ; Gare ; Plim ; Daws ;
Surrey    .    Miles ;
Hampshire . Picknell ; Morgan ;
Sussex  .      Picknell ;
New Zealand/ Australia ;   Powell ; Aitken ; Gare ;Fraser
Shetland Isles/ Fraser; Robertson /Sinclair

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Re: street numbering
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 September 07 04:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Owen,


I found a similar question elsewhere:

Q. "When looking at the rows of houses on East End ordnance maps, is there a
general rule re numbering ? IE, Even on the left, Odd on the right (vice
versa?) or no rule? Advice appreciated".

A. "No real rule, and it very much depends on the date, the amount of
alteration in roads locally (and building of railways and large
buildings)
Often roads were originally numbered down one side and up the other.
Then, because extra houses were added at the end of some streets, there
may have been a change from this to all evens on one side, all odds on
another. On the whole, this was done before 1861 or at least 1871. The
enumerator's walk at the front of a census book will (you hope) state ' a
house 2-32 in Long Lane' 'all houses comprising 1 to 53 in Long Lane '
- they can be in totally different enumeration books, since census walks
in London and other towns were done in blocks, a bit a main road and the
adjacent side roads (or even one side of them).
However, most London streets were subject to great alterations.
Railways were built, main roads were widened, which meant that the ends
of side roads were cut down and the first house or two vanished, so the
remaining ones could be renumbered, and 5 became 1 and so on.
In another common change, two short roads on either side of a crossing
road joined up and became known by the name of one of them, so that all
the houses in Pine Street were now numbered as Acacia Road. So you can
never be totally sure that your Number 6 Acacia Road in 1891 is the same
house numbered 6 Acacia Rd in 1914, or the same as 6 Acacia Rd now. If
you are trying to locate a specific house, it can be quite a long
business, involving directories, rate books, street name changes etc.
Often the give-away is that the fixed points, like churches, pubs,
schools, seem to 'move' into a different street".

I hope this helps.

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Re: street numbering
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 September 07 10:41 BST (UK) »
To show you what the problems are:

A cottage owned by some of my ancestors in Nuneaton, over four census had three different street names and three different numbers including the number changing when the street name was unchanged.  If it hadn't been for the complexities of the actual ownership documented in wills and details of sales of part ownerships I would have thought it much more likely that they had been moving around.

David
Living in Berkshire from Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: street numbering
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 September 07 14:52 BST (UK) »
Hello, Owen,

try this site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_numbering

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*completed*Re: street numbering;thanks
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 September 07 06:39 BST (UK) »
 ???thanks for the info. rather confusing when searching from afar . it seems to be the same in australia.
a lot of our streets have LOT numbers ; rural delivery nos and the Poastal address.
 and !! they do change much to ones anoyance.
thanks Ruskia ; behindthefrogs; and Meliora.
Scotland .   McGowan ;   Wilkie :
London   .   Morgan ; McGowan ; Dash ; Day ;
Middlesex.  Powell ; Gare ; Plim ; Daws ;
Surrey    .    Miles ;
Hampshire . Picknell ; Morgan ;
Sussex  .      Picknell ;
New Zealand/ Australia ;   Powell ; Aitken ; Gare ;Fraser
Shetland Isles/ Fraser; Robertson /Sinclair