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WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« on: Wednesday 05 September 07 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,

just trying to confirm something, a brother of my granddad served in the Northumberland Fusiliers in WWI the pictures in uniform I have which I felt sure was him have cap badges that look nothing like the fusilier badges you see on various websites.

The badge looks big and round with the laurels around it, the inside is unclear in the photo. Can this be him and the Northumberland's?

Help appreciated,
Nic
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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 September 07 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Nic

Can you help us by posting the photo and the soldier's name, where he was born/from and also did he survive the war?

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Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 September 07 22:17 BST (UK) »
OK My great Uncle was Arthur Pulford, born June Q 1877 in Beccles Suffolk,

I attach his joining medical document and a picture of him in classic soldier studio situation.

Hope you can get near that cap badge, not like the classic Fusiliers badge.

Thanks for helping.
Nic
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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 September 07 23:46 BST (UK) »
when he first enlisted he joined the Essex Regiment then transferred to the Northumberland Fusiliers after which, after being unfit or too old for overseas service, he was again transferred this time into the Royal Defence Corps. I believe that the cap badge in the photograph is that of the Pompadour's, The Essex Regiment.  You can down load his medal card for £ 3.50 from the national archives site
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 September 07 23:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Nic

Well according to his document, Arthur enlisted into the Essex Regiment, Regimental number 31072 - but it does not look like an Essex cap badge to me.  Then he transferred to the Northumberland Fusiliers, Regimental number 44445, and like you say his cap badge does not bear resemblance to them.  

He was later in 468 Prot. Coy. Royal Defence Corp Regimental number 71976.

So could his cap badge be the latter of the three units he was with?  Here is is medal card, I wonder if it will reveal anymore about Arthur!:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01vu/

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Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 September 07 23:56 BST (UK) »
Snap Old Rowley

Well at least we are working toward the same aim, and you appear to have an handle on the Pompadours!   8)
Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 September 07 00:37 BST (UK) »
being an Essex Calf I have always been interested in my old county regiment Atom. I am not sure if the men of the RDC used their former regiment cap badge or not when serving in that unit, if that is the case then I would have thought that he would have been wearing the Northumberlands badge. When the picture is lightened there also appears to be an arm of service strip on his upper arm.

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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 September 07 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hey thanks for that, I thought the last bit was just a part of the Fullerliers. Even with that information I cannot find a Cap badge that matches.

The medical card download isn't that going to be the same as the one I put up here. As I watch my pennies I do not want to pay for somethin I already have.

I think I have problems with different great uncles and some times dobt weather the attribution of people to photos. There is only one living realative who had any contact with these people and I haven't met her, but she has seen these photos.

Any way thanks for the help, I might be back later for more help.

Nic
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Re: WWI Hat Badge Northumberland Reg.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 September 07 16:03 BST (UK) »
Nic,

The medal index card that I refer to above gives limited information but what it does give is details of any medals or awards that he would have received. Sometimes it also gives the theatre of war that he went to, France/Balkans etc. It does not give personal details about the soldier etc except for name rank and regiment(s). It can be, at times, worth the small amount of £3.50 to download this image. If you do obtain it, post it up and I am sure someone will help you to decipher it.

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