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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Migs17
Your information is really interesting and I've sent it to my contact in New Zealand.
I posted some info on our Henry (1814 Delce Farm) on B-G Forums last night
Can you give me a link to the above please?
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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 31 January 08 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Doverrog hello!! 

So good to hear from you - the BG Forums info is the same as the thread on Rootschat - so would rather just stay with Rootschat - I was born a Matson in Christchurch in New Zealand in 1945, and moved to Tasmania in 2002 and when I found that the only reference I could find to Henry here was less than flattering; Henry crossed paths with Goodwin, the editor of The Cornwall Chronicle who, suffering paranoia, slighted Henry and his superior Matthew Curling Friend in the newspaper. Posibly resulting from Goodwin’s interference through the newspapers Henry was refused a pay rise and felt there had been a ‘slur cast on his character’I decided to redress this by presenting an article to the Examiner newspaper to put his name in the archives - I am more into social history than genealogy.

 HENRY MATSON b. 1814 Wingham, Kent.
Son of Robert Matson m.Elizabeth Moon 11 Aug 1808

The family  dates are from the Family Tree commissioned byJohn Thomas Matson. His mother Alice Manifold (d.May 26, 1861)-  was the niece of William Barnes who gifted the Cataract Gorge in Launceston to the people of Tasmania. 

In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented - I think this is online - but I have a photocopy of this I could email to you.

I have  ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe and could photocopy any pertinent pages.

There were at least 3 of the sons of Robert Matson here in Tasmania at some time through the 1800’s - Henry Matson - Harbour Master at George Town(2 words not one, and VDL, not Tasmania.At the time Henry (and George, and James) were here, Tasmania was Van Diemen’s Land.
).  George Matson with the Bank of Australasia (not Australia) in Hobart;   and James Moon Matson.


I have a copy of  ‘The Wished For Land’ and have contact with the Manifold and Bostock families, and a couple of receipts from Henry Manifold Matson - son of Henry and Alice. (photo attached)
The other Matson that I have had an interest in is Capt. Thomas Matson, master of the barque 'Margaret' - as I used to live in Mangawhai 20 minutes from Waipu in Northland, New Zealand, and the obelisk outside the Waipu Early Settler Museum has reference to Capt.Matson - 'sailed from Cape Breton for Adelaide Oct. 1851; arriving April 1852, from whence they were transipped to Auckland). Unfortunately, the book about the Nova Scotian settlers has transcribed Matson to Watson.  I sighted the original signature and it was that curly M that could be read as W - and the curator was immoveable on it even tho' the name Matson was on the obelisk. I see threads about Thomas that I yet have to explore properly.

If I can be of help here in Tasmania I'd love to hear from you.
Migs17

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 31 January 08 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Migs17.
Once again thank you for this fascinating information.

The family  dates are from the Family Tree commissioned by John Thomas Matson. His mother Alice Manifold (d.May 26, 1861)-  was the niece of William Barnes who gifted the Cataract Gorge in Launceston to the people of Tasmania. 

In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented - I think this is online - but I have a photocopy of this I could email to you.

I have  ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe and could photocopy any pertinent pages.


If possible I would love to take you up on your kind offer of all three items.
Although I believe I am descended from a different branch of the Matsons, I find the social history fascinating too.

I will send you a personal message as it would probably be easier to send the above via email.

In your research for the ancestry of Captain Thomas Matson, I don't know if you have tried this web site which is the Scottish records.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/?gclid=CNzP0YmvoJECFQqIlAodoXG2tg

Unfortunately all my Matson info. is based around their East Kent branches.

I do have a possible clue though:-
John Matson (1746-1805) of Wingham, Kent married Mary Roberta Harvey. They had 9 children including Richard (1771-1848). Richard Matson was son of John Matson Esq, Chief Justice and Governor of Dominica, uncle of Commander Henry Jas Matson, cousin of Commander Geo Wm Matson.
Richard was an Admiral and he married Elizabeth Palmer in 1804.
They had a son named Melville Gore Matson who was born about 1805 at Ness Cottage, Inverness, Scotland. Melville lived to about 1846 and was Captain of the 39th Regiment. He had at least two children of whom I know of only one.
Elizabeth Sarah Cumming Matson born about 1827 at Ness Cottage. I don't know the name of Melville's wife but based on the daughter's name it may have been Cumming. 
Elizabeth married an Edward Fraser Advocate at Scottish Bar, Sherrif-Substitute of Sutherlandshire in 1854. The couple did not have any children.

This branch have both a Scottish and a maritime connection so perhaps it may just be where Captain Thomas links in?
Good hunting.
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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 August 08 14:16 BST (UK) »
Hello Troods,
I was wondering how you got on with your research?
Did you manage to find more about Captain Thomas?
There are certainly records for Matsons in Hull who could well be descendants or siblings.
How about his family? Did you find them in Waipu or another settlement?

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 December 08 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

I am finallly back into my genealogy after a month and abit off due it being full on at work - retail- and I am currently going through my old postings etc.

I have had no luck in regards to locating Captain Thomas's family in Hull, Yorkshire but word on the family grape vine is that we are related to the Kent Matsons. I am waiting on a reply from a fellow researcher who has done loads more work than me on this line than me so hopefully they can fill in the gaps.

Thanks for all those sites Janice. Great list.

Also I had some great help from a lady in NS who gave me some insight into the area of Halifax and New Foundland, where my ggrandfather George Matson was born in 1845.

Many thanks to you all for you ideas and snippets of info I appreciate it all.

Regards Troods
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 December 08 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Good to hear from you again. I'm interested to hear of the possible link to the Kent Matsons, as that would certainly be news, so fingers crossed.
In the meantime Happy New Year to everyone.
Roger
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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 10:07 BST (UK) »
troods    may have some interesting stuff from ireland i think it may hold the key to our ancestors regards ken matson

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken

Great to hear from you - sounds very interesting indeed - tell me more lol

Thanks Troods
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 12:21 BST (UK) »
troods    may have some interesting stuff from ireland i think it may hold the key to our ancestors regards ken matson

The Irish stuff sounds really interesting as I have so far been completely unable to identify our Captain Thomas Matson.
My only possible piece of info is from the 1871 census -
Thomas Matson aged 59 born IRELAND and living in Patrington, Yorkshire. .
Wife is Ellen aged 56 born IRELAND. The family have two boarders, Mary Boltin aged 17 born Hull and Bridget Pollen aged 17 and born Hull.
Son Thomas aged 20 born Walmer. Kent.
Daughter Maria aged 18 born Hull, Yorkshire.
(There is a record of birth in the Elham Registration District in June Quarter 1855 2a 637 which may be this Maria.)
Son Edward aged 13 born Partington, Yorkshire
(There is a record of Birth for an Edward Matson in the June Quarter of 1860  9d 205 for Hull Registration District which may be this Edward.)
It seems as though this family may have moved between Partington and Walmer. There are other Matsons in the Walmer area at the time who may prove to have links?
As Walmer is on the coast and has seafaring links this may also fit.

Looking forward to hearing what you have found.
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