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come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« on: Tuesday 04 September 07 13:35 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Just been reading some great info regarding Rev Norman Mcleod and his migration to first canada and then New Zealand via Australia. Now my interest lie in that my gggrandfather captained the ship 'the Margaret' out to Oz in 1852 that bought the rev.
I have been trying to trace the whereabouts of my Matson family throughout Canada for awhile now and found the info relating to Rev Mcleod fascinating.
I just googled his name and bingo a heap of sites came up.
Certainly sounds like Rev Mcleod was a very interestin man.

A very happy Troods at the moment.
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 September 07 03:01 BST (UK) »
Have any first names for Matson?? and/or possibly years (unless we've already helped you )

Cheers
Jeff

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 September 07 06:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeff

I have Cptn Thomas Matson marrying a Elizabeth Preston in 1841 Halifax and they had the follwing children
George b 1845 New Foundland
John
Maria Sarah
Rebecca Elizabeth
Thomas Jnr
The whole family left St Anns in 1852 along with Rev Mcleod to Oz.
I do know that Cpt Thomas was born in Kingston Upon Hull in 1819.
His occupation at his time of marriage was given as a master mariner.
Thats about it on the family I am afraid.
Cpt Thomas died in 1858 on board  a ship he later navigated up to the Torres Straits area from wounds he received from a accident  along with son John.
The children mother had previously died in 1854.

So I have abit of a gap regarding this Matson family and how and what year they arrived in Canada.

Regards
Troods
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 September 07 14:59 BST (UK) »
 ;D Actually they left in 1851, arrived 1852 according to the shipslist site...
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/Sebim.html
(from St. Ann's, NS 1st November 1851, arrived April 10th 1852...)
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 September 07 18:21 BST (UK) »
Here are some links:

Nova Scotia Genealogy
http://nsgna.ednet.ns.ca/

Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

Nova Scotia GenWeb Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canns/

Nova Scotia Genealogy Links
http://www.genealogylinks.net/canada/nova_scotia/index.html

Nova Scotia History
http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625/histindx.html

Genealogy & History Links Nova Scotia
http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/nova-scotia.html

The Nova Scotia Genealogy Resources Page
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ab443/genealog.html

Cyndi's List - Nova Scotia
http://www.cyndislist.com/novascot.htm

Janice

Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Matson Sailors and 'Down Under'
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 January 08 13:34 GMT (UK) »
I don't know of any links between our Matson families but I though you might be interested in this Henry Matson and his adventures:-
Builder of the cottages, Henry Matson, was born in Kent in 1814 and emigrated with his brother to Australia in 1835. Shipwrecked off Tasmania, he settled there working as a harbour master and investing in two stations and a quarry. Many early Melbourne buildings were built of stone from the quarry. Living between Tasmania and Melbourne foralmost 30 years, Matson decided to emigrate to Christchurch in 1862 following the death of his first wife. Here he founded H. Matson and Co, one of the largest stock and station firms at the time. Matson’s offices were in the ....Following Matson’s death in 1885 his second wife Edith and son Conway Matson inherited the estate."
“GEORGE III 394 tons Convict ship 14.12.1834 dep London 205 convicts, Capt W.H. Moxey. 12.4.1835 Hit rocks Derwent R 133 lost, 161 survivors included Henry Matson, first mate.”
1838 Bought land in Georgetown Tasmania and 31 December 1838 bought land in Colac, Victoria, Australia.
1839 Mr MATSON will fill in for Matthew Curling FRIEND - Port Office duties - George Town.
Port Officer George Town, Tasmania.Moved to Australia..
1843 Mrs Matson and 4 chdn dep Port Phillip
THE WRECK OF THE "ISABELLA"
On 18 June 1844 the "Isabella" left Melbourne headed for London, England and Leith, Scotland. She was a 422 ton barque under the command of Captain J. F. Hardie. Her journey had started in Sydney and since arriving at Melbourne on 6 April 1844 had loaded a cargo of wool.
When she left Melbourne there was a strong fair wind and thick weather which had increased to a hurricane by 21 June when land was sighted. Captain Hardie mistakenly thought this to be part of the Kent Group of islands and tried to navigate through what he believed to be a well known channel of those islands. Unfortunately the land was actually part of Flinders Island and the ship ran aground on a reef of rocks on the morning of 22 June 1844.
All the passengers and crew were able reach shore safely before the ship broke up. After some days they made contact with a party of sealers and a few days later reached the "Flying Fish" which was on the other side of Flinders Island and about to sail for Melbourne. They were all taken aboard the "Flying Fish" and arrived at Melbourne on 2 July 1844.
On 9 September 1844 the Postmaster, Henry D. Kemp, issued a list of some letters he was holding at the Melbourne Post Office. He said that these letters had been rescued from the wreck of the "Isabella" and would be re-forwarded to London in the first direct mail. This list, with addresses abbreviated for privacy reasons, was published in the "Port Phillip Herald" on 17 September 1844, and appears hereunder:
MATSON, Robert - Rochester, Kent, England
1844 Henry went with his Uncle James Matson to Bacchus Marsh
1847 Port Phillips Directory - MATSON Henry - settler, Acheson River, Western Port    1848-9 Henry Matson sold Acheron and moved to Bullengarooke Station Near Bacchus Marsh.                    
Alice died about 1857. Henry moved to Christchurch and re-married. Built large stock and station firm and auctioneering buisness. In New Zealand Henry Matson's estate was called ‘Delce’.
'Triggs bought a farm just west of the railway crossing at Papanui next door to Henry Matson’s estate, Delce’.
'People buried here include the ‘grandfathers’ of the family, Henry Matson, 71, who died on 24 October 1885.'
The death certificate records that Henry died of Paralysis and Old Age. It also records that he had been in New Zealand for 20 years at the time of his death.
Another 'colourful' Matson was Mrs John Matson who became known as 'Klondike Kate' in the days of the gold rush in the Yukon. My greatgrandmother always maintained that Klondike Kate was a sister-in-law of James Matson who visited the family in Dover sometime around 1900 and went to stay with John Matson in the Yukon. However there were more than one 'Klondike Kates' and a 1930s newspaper cutting also refers to Mrs John Matson as 'Klondike Kate'.
Let me know if you have any Matsons in the East Kent area as , who knows, there may be a link??
MATSON-East Kent.  HURST- Oxfordshire.

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Re: Henry Matson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I hope I am using this correctly - just joined  so I could answer your queries and information about the Matson clan here in the Antipodes. This is my family too - I was from NZ and now live in Tasmania.  Matsons in NZ - Henry's line , his cousin Henry Matson from 58th Foot Regiment & New Zealand Wars, and !! Capt Tom Matson who was the Captain of the Barque "Margaret " that took the settlers to Waipu from Novia Scotia - there is an obelisk with his name on in Waipu.
I posted some info on our Henry (1814 Delce Farm) on B-G Forums last night.    
HENRY MATSON b. 1814 Wingham, Kent.
Son of Robert Matson m.Elizabeth Moon 11 Aug 1808

Matson/Manifold Family Tree  byJohn Thomas Matson, son of Henry Matson and Alice (Manifold).
This dates from Robert (no birth date) and Elizabeth Moon b.Jan 9 1788.

Robert Matson         May 22,  1809 
James Moon             July 26,  1810
John  Matson            May26,  1812
Henry  Matson          June 17, 1814
George Matson         Dec 5,    1817
In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented.
Henry Matson was the Chief Officer on ‘George III’ he was cleared of any misconduct in the shooting of convicts.
The incident is well covered in ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe
Pub: Blubber Press, Tasmania 2006 ISBM 0 908528 329
I now live in Tasmania (b.New Zealand) and wrote an article about Henry Matson for The Examiner newspaper in 2006.
Henry, 1st mate Geo III, Harbour Master at George Town, Van Diemen’s Land married Alice, the daughter of William and Mary Manifold(Barnes) of Kelso (n.b. George Town - 2 words, and Tasmania was Van Diemen’s Land if researching.)
Henry crossed Goodwin, the editor of The Cornwall Chronicle a paranoid,  slighted Henry and  Matthew Curling Friend in the newspaper. Henry was refused a pay rise and felt there had been a ‘slur cast on his character’.
 3 of the sons of Robert Matson here in Tasmania at some time through the 1800’s - Henry Matson - Harbour Master at George Town; George Matson, who worked for the Bank of Australasia (not Australia) in Hobart; and James Moon Matson.
The oral history I knew as I grew up, was that Henry and John came from England together, both as ship’s officers, pioneering myth?
George Matson? a banker with the Bank of Australasia in Hobart.  Index for the Launceston Examiner 1852 - 1859, he was formerly of H.M. 7th Royal Fusiliers, and dropped the first ball of shot from the shot tower in Hobart.
 Henry’s brother James Moon Matson worked the Bacchus March quarries with Henry in Victoria. During this time Alice stayed at Purrembete with her brothers’ families, as was often the case in Colonial Australia. This was harsh country, harsh times - recession period, gold rush, bush rangers, snakes and fires- a difficult place for a woman away from the comfort of her family. Some of this is written up in The Bostock diaries.
James Moon Matson. The first reference I have found for him here in Tasmania is as the chief officer on ‘Charles Kerr’ bound for Java. Visited Launceston 21 December 1835. As Harbour Master, Henry Matson in 1835, also acted as Customs Officer according to notes from John Thomas Matson. The two brothers would have been together briefly then.
James is  in 'The Tregurtha Log’ in 1836. In Feb 1837, Tregurtha took up land with brothers Henry and James Matson in the Western Districts of Victoria.’ He(James) went with the first settlers to Victoria and was a passenger on the ‘Henry’ 3 March 1837 from Launceston(VDL) to Port Phillip (Victoria). In note 282 of ‘The Tregurtha Log’ … ‘James Moon Matson. His brother Henry was Harbour Master at George Town in 1838.……….James was involved in various pastoral activities. Apparently he never married.’
Robert? I have no record of him in the Antipodes. I presume he stayed home to take over the farm.
There are three(3) Henry Matsons.
1 - our Henry. Born 1814 Wingham, Kent.
2 - his cousin Major Henry Matson m. Isabella de Thierry, 58th Foot Regiment - New Zealand Wars. Settled in Parnell, Auckland, New Zealand. Correspondence in NZ archives has a letter to his cousin Henry (our Henry Matson).
3. Henry Manifold Matson . Henry and Alice’s son who stayed in Victoria at Purrumbete when the remainder of the family went to New Zealand in 1862 - and became the property manager.