KELLY Family from Ireland to Scotland

[fiona kelly]

Hi Robina
Thanks for replying,you know I actually thought it said hooten, but somehow came to the conclusion that I didn't think this was a proper surname and classed it as housten .Maybe it is a surname

[robeena]

Hi,
If you look at familysearch.org you will find that Hooton is a legit. surname. Also I noted that you have found a marriage for Ellen Kelly and Duncan McFadgen, oddly I have been researching a Robert McFadzean and Helen Kelly. I know it is a lot of expense but do you have one of the birth certs. for any of Ellen's children after 1861 it would give her birthplace too. Just a thought. Have you thought of looking at Griffith's Valuations for Ireland to get a feel for McLaughlin and where it is based.  I have noted that my Helen Kelly is sometimes given as born Ireland but she was not but her parents were.  Also I note from the 1861 census that they had a Connar family and a Sweeney living with them says lodgers but they may be family. I have had a stepfather being given as a lodger.  Just some thoughts.
Robeena

[robeena]

I had a look at Ancestry and there are some Hootons on the 1851 England census who give their birthplace as Dublin Ireland.  Also there is a Michael McLaughlin born ca 1817 Ireland,  on the 1851 Scotland Census in Barony, Lanarkshire. You could track him and see where it leads you.
Robeena

[tootsiepie]

I was hoping the spelling might have been 'Houten'    However, Young Daniel with a Scots/Irish accent and a registrar trying to understand it, who knows??  I do know a Houten and will ask the next time I see her , the pronunciation of the name from older generations. i.e. how they said it.

Plan B-- As a lot of Irish immigrants came to Scotland, either with or to, friends , family, or neighbours, there is a chance that the sponsors of the children born in Scotland and hopefully baptised in the local Catholic church, might give a clue. the following site might help you.

http://www.catholic-heritage.net/sca/genealogy.htm

I know of 2 churches in Greenock, St Laurences, in the east end and  and St Marys (central to West) , but I'm not familiar with Port Glasgow Catholic Churches of the period, indeed if there were any.  My lot were married 1863 in St Laurences, this would be nearer to the Port.

[fiona kelly]

Hi robeena
just looking over ur replys there, I think maybe some research in to what you were suggesting about the lodgers theory, I did notice my family on 1861 census as having lodgers but never thought a lot of it  thank you for this helpful insight and will start some research on it as soon as I can manage.

[fiona kelly]

Hi tootsiepie
I know my family of that time were roman catholic, I think st johns in port glasgow would have been church used by catholicis of that time do you think if I contacted the church they may have bdm's registers as far back as this?  I have heard of church records but ive been unsure as to how you would contact church about access of them!!

[tootsiepie]

Here's a page from their website, scroll to the bottom for contact no. for family history enquiries.

http://www.btinternet.com/~JohnTheBaptist.PortGlasgow/ParishTeam/team.htm

Let us know if you get through, because I did hear (a while back) that one of the Catholic Churches in Port Glasgow was closing..  I'm sorry, I can't remember which one, and fingers crossed it isn't St.Johns.

[ABradley]

Hello,
Just browsing through and saw your query.
I don't know if you are aware of the following web site which shows marriages in the Parish of Clonmany in the latter half of the 19th century. I think the dates just miss your Kelly/McLaughlin marriage but you may find it of interest. There are a lot of Kellys and McLaughlins - even a Cicely McLaughlin- a different spelling. So your theory about Inishowen might be right.
My maternal grandparents came from Clonmany Parish.

Good Luck

[ABradley]

Sorry forgot link

http://www.iol.ie/~inishowen/genealogy/records/Clonmany/Marriage/m4.html