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[sallysh]

I came upon this thread today; although it's old, I hope I can tap into what ipshalapata has found. Perhaps answer some of my own questions about the Henry Clark of Carlisle and his family.
First, I'm not positive my Henry and yours are the same, but he's the only one I could find at the appropriate time and place. My connection to Henry Clark is through his parents, Patrick and Jane Clark, both born c. 1811 in Ireland, immigrated to Wigton area about 1840. 1841 census shows Patrick and Jane Clark with children Anne and Eleanor (both born Ireland), Henry, born 1841. 1851 shows the addition of Elizabeth and Margaret, born 1846 and 1848. My ancestor is Elizabeth Clark, who went into service and came to Blackburn, Lancashire before 1871.  It looks like several of her sisters also went into service here and there, as did Henry for a time. I found that same 1871 census in Carlisle showing Henry and Sarah and their three children, and then there was nothing (as you have found).
I'd be very interested to learn whether your Henry seems to spring from the same parents as my Elizabeth (I know her parents' names from her death certificate in New York City).
If I'm completely off base with this Henry (YOUR Henry), and you can tell me why, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise . . ..
Many Thanks.
Sally

[IanShalapata]

Hi Sally,

I'm very glad you replied to the thread. Heather and the others have all been quite helpful with a lot of good tips and research.

I've taken a lot of the advice and started with the purchase of Mary McCallum's birth certificate. I found that her mother's maiden name was, in fact, Morrison; and not Murray. Selling that to the family is the hard part.

I believe that Heather was on the right track with the Clark(e)'s of Wigton and later Caldewgate. When I purchase Thomas's b/c it should confirm the family unit. I think, then, that it will also confirm that your Elizabeth and my Henry were siblings.

From Patrick to Henry to Thomas and then to my Grandfather, it is the slightest of threads to follow the male line as each was the sole son born into the family. But to be able to trace another line through your Elizabeth is a rare opportunity.

What's the protocol for going to email?

It's a pleasure to "meet" you and enough can't be siad for all the helpful people here at Rootschat.

Ian

[Wiggy]

What's the protocol for going to email?

If Sally makes two more replies either here or anywhere, then you will be able to send her a PM (private message) with your email address - even just a HI on this thread will get you up - you need three posts - see the number just under your name Sally?   Don't put email addresses out on the boards though.

It is great to 'meet' with rellies via the boards - I've just done so - great excitement!

Wiggy   

[sallysh]

Hi Ian,
Following the "reply" instructions above, here I am. I tried your e-mail address, and am not sure it went through. Just in case, I'll repeat what I said here. If you feel fairly certain that your Henry's parents were Patrick and Jane Clark, then I think we have a nice family connection here. I'm 99 percent sure they are Elizabeth's parents, based on her death certificate information.
I'd like to share her line with you, if you agree we have a connection, and would be pleased to know what you have on Henry's descendants. Elizabeth Clark is an interesting story, as they all are, right? Seems she never married the rather upper class father of her two (three?) children, and in 1898 she came to New York City with two of them. Her oldest daughter, Lilly, married a Carlisle man (Allan Cassidy) and that couple came to New York in 1891. They are the grandparents of my husband, whom he never knew.
Looking forward to hearing your confirmation, and will be sad if you feel we're not on the same line (but I'll get over it).
Thanks!
Sally

[sallysh]

My second reply: a happy hello to you.
Sally