look up offer - crawfordjohn death records

[tmoffatt]

Hi - Can you look up any George Paton, or Jean/Janet Paton in the Crawfordjohn death records. They were married (George Paton & Jean Colthart) in Crawfordjohn in 1756. Also any John Colthart and Elizabeth Colthart, who were Jean's parents. Jean Colthart was born in Crawfordjohn in 1725.
Thanks - Tom Moffatt    tmoffatt at xplornet dot com

[Boyd Scott Brown]

Hi
I would appreciate your help in tracing any details re my ancesters in the Crawfordjohn area.
James Brown b. 1796 Douglas.   His son Alexander Brown b. 1825 Crawfordjohn
David Brown b. 1824 Crawfordjohn
In the 1841 and 1851 Census they were working at Glentaggert Douglas
In the 1861 census Alexander is married to Agnes ? born 1826 in Crawfordjohn and living at High Townhead, Douglas.
My grandfather James Brown was born in Douglas 1859.
Many thanks.
Boyd 

[fancy nancy]

Hi, it's been a very long time since I was on roots chat.

Looking for dates  for the following people who died and were residents of Crawfordjohn.

Thomas French (B) 1742 -
Elizabeth French Nee Carmichael (B) 1747 -

Jean Hunter wife of William Thomson (B) 1823 -

Other names that I have from Crawfordjohn are

 Thomas French married Elizabeth Carmichael
 David French married Jane Milligan
 Hope Hunter married Sarah French
 William Thomson married Jean hunter
 William Cairns married Catherine Thomson
 Hope Thomson Cairns Married Jeanie Cocherin Johnstone



Would appreciate any information you can give me for these people
EG. are they buried at Crawfordjohn

Many thanks
Nancy

[dab1301]

Hi Boyd

My research has only 1 Alexander born in Crawfordjohn to John Brown and Janet Milligan although I find no marriage records for John and Janet.
The Alexander I have has a dob of July 1824 and married an Agnes Kerr in 1852 and yes I think Agnes was born 1826.
In the 1871 census there is a James aged 12.In the same census there is a John aged 18 and that is my link

[ppalla]

I have a book of crawfordjohn death records if anyone would like me to look anyone up.
They only go up to 1854.
Let me know
Caroline

Hi Caroline,
I would appreciate it if you could look up DAVID BLACK. He must have died between 1841 and 1851. I cannot find him on ScotlandsPeople.
He was married to Janet Harkness (1828 in Crawfordjohn).

Many thanks,
Patrizia

[Lodger]

Hi Patrizia,

Caroline hasn't been active on Rootschat for 4 years now, so in case she has changed her email and isn't notified of your message, I will attempt to reply to your query.

The Crawfordjohn Death Records are not complete by any means and there is no record of your David Black's death. There are records for 2 of his children though -

DAVID BLACK, abode recorded as "Strand", aged 3 months.
Son of David Black and Janet Harkness.
20th November 1833, buried in this churchyard.

JOHN BLACK, Strand, aged 7 years.
Son of David Black and Janet Harkness.
24th November 1838, buried in this churchyard.

There is a Monumental Inscription for this family, taken from Sheila Scott's "Upper Ward of Lanarkshire Monumental Inscriptions Pre 1855".

Crawfordjohn churchyard -

"Erected by the family to the memory of their father, David Black who died 28th February 1843 aged 44 years. Their mother Janet Harkness died 31st January 1890 aged 94 years. Also their sons John and David died in infancy."

Hope this helps.

[Lodger]

I had a look through the rest of the Crawfordjohn Deaths Records and there is another Black who lived at Strand, which must have been a hamlet or farmtown. This may be the father of David who died in 1843 perhaps?

WILLIAM BLACK, Strand, aged 75 years, husband of the late Janet Neilson.
20th May 1853, buried in this churchyard.

Here is an interesting entry from the Death Records, probably not related to you but a good example of what can be found in these records.

BARBARA MOFFAT, Strand, aged 77 years, married in 1804 to John Smith who, after the marriage, deserted her.
1st November 1841, buried in this churchyard.

[ppalla]

Thank you for stepping in and looking into the documents, Lodger.

The Monumental Inscription provides an excellent clue. Aside from the fact that the documents are incomplete, I'm curious if David Black died somewhere else. His wife died in the parish of Wandell and Lamington. Nonetheless, the inscription was placed in the Crawfordjohn churchyard by the family.

At the time, Strand consisted of three dwelling homes east of Crawfordjohn and south-west of Netherton.

Given that David's eldest son was named William, the William Black you discovered was most likely David's father.

I'll look through the Kirk Session records again to see if I can discover anything else.

Many thanks,
Patrizia

[Lodger]

Hi Patrizia, more than likely David died at Strand, there is a 47 year gap between the deaths of him and his wife, she may have moved to be with or close to a family member. The plot in Crawfordjohn churchyard would have been the obvious place for her to be interred, with her husband and children.