Cockermouth Businesses

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Have received the certs today but no father info I'm afraid worse luck!!

Fred's birth cert & marriage cert have no mention of a father. He married at the Primitive Methodist Chapel Cockermouth to Isabella Ostle 13/10/1904. Ada Robinson was a witness so she would have got married after Fred's marriage date. Fred was living at Court Buildings Cockermouth at the time of his marriage. Do you know where that is? His occupation is joiner journeyman.

A bit of a disapointment!!

Regards,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

What a shame there was no  more information!  Even so, there  are things we can look at. 

I was going to look at the Primitive Methodists before, but there were no records earlier here.  There may be some for this later family.  I'll look at the Independent Chapel in Cockermouth too.

I haven't found Court Buildings yet, but I'm pretty sure they wsere mentioned when I was looking before.  The chapel or the shop might have been in there. though I think I've mentioned everything about the shop.  I'd forgotten though.  It was a library book I was looking at, not my own, so I'll look again.

I'll see what else I find, and look in the will s again too.

I'm not sure when I'll be up again though.

Soon.

Best wishes

Emms.

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

I received Ada's birth cert after the others & hers doesn't have a father on it either worse luck!!

If you do manage to see the methodist records, I would be interested if you could find Ada's marriage & any of Fred's or Ada's children.

Thanks once again in advance!! You have helped me a lot already!!

Regards,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

The plot definitely thickens!  I'll have a look and see how I get on!

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

Limited success with the Primitive Methodists I'm afraid.  I suspect there should be more than there is.  Maybe some went to the PRO or has been lost.  Even so, I think your Robinsons have moved araound.

I only got to look at baptisms, but I did find just one daughter for Frederick:

1913
June 22nd/ born May 8th/ Mary Annie/ (daughter of) Frederick & Isabella / Robinson / River View, Cockermouth/ Joiner/ Joseph Burton.

Quite late.  I wonder if they'd lived elsewhere first.  We know though that they're still using the Primitive Methodist Chapel.  May be I should try and pin them down in trade directories and electoral registers.  If we get some dates I can have a look at some local papers too.

Good hunting!  I'll go back when there's a bit more time.

Best wishes

Emms.

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Thanks for the lookup. I have had a bit of trouble posting on Rootschat today so I hope this one works!!!

I'll mention this daughter to my mum to see if it jogs any memories. It would be interesting to find any living descendents of Fred to ask if they know who his father was!!

Yes if they married 1904 you would expect children before 1913!

Gillian

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Been talking to my mum and having a think. My mum definitely remembers a Gt Uncle Fred, younger than her Gran Elizabeth Robinson (b 1860 Cockermouth) and older than her Dad Fred Ellwood b1896 Cockermouth.

The strange thing is that this Uncle Fred worked for the post office in Cockermouth. My mum remembers him showing her round. She particularly remembers seeing the telephone exchange. The Fred Robinson half brother of Elizabeth Robinson is a joiner up until 1913 (baptism of daughter Mary Annie). It seems strange to change your profession from joiner to post office worker. Maybe there is another Uncle Fred. Perhaps Ada Robinson Fred's sister married a Fred?? I did see a possible marriage on freebmd in 1906, Cockermouth with Frederick McJannet as a possible husband. I had disregarded this one as Ada was Ada Elizabeth Robinson and I had never seen a middle name Elizabeth mentioned before.

What do you think?

I hope you can follow all that!!

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

Well now I am confused!  I'm only just getting back to real searching, as opposed to what I can lay my hands on here, after Christmas.

I came back to Roootschat tonight, and yours came up as a post since my last visit!

I've never seen this before.  Maybe I missed an email, but I've been on a good few times since November!

Anyway, thank you the good kind person who finds and posts these problem mails!

It looks like this has taken an extra interesting turn!

I will take it away and have a think!!

Happy New Year!

Emms.

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

Just a quick glance with my supper!  I'll have another look tomorrow at the old stuff.

Could he have been a joiner for the post office?  The old shops have loads of wooden fittings.  Joinery seemed to be on the Robinson co's list of services.  Maybe he just wanted to spread his wings?

I'll see what I can find.

I think I looked at an odd electoral register, but it didn't seem too relevant then!

As far as the name goes, certainly, I've got some in my tree who swapped combinations and orders of Christian names probably as often as they changed their shoes!  S9o I don't worry too much as long as one usual one is given and there are no more contenders!

I'll get back to you!

Emms