Cockermouth Businesses

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

You're welcome.  I must go down and have a good look around some time soon.

I'll let you know when Ive been to the record office.

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

Emms again!  It was gorgeous but cold here today, and I managed to get up to the archives.

I went to look for Methodist marriages, only to discover that there were none in our archives as early as you need..  We always seem to find your family by a roundabout way though!   So I tried another tack.

I looked to see if Frederick or Ada had their children baptised there - and they didn't - not on the Wesleyan circuit anyway.  However, glancing back it became clear that there definitely were links to this church in your family at an earlier date - There are:-

Children of John and Margaret Robinson of Cockermouth (1860's and 1870's)

Children of Joseph and Elizabeth Robinson of Cockermouth, (1860's - 70's including Palmer 1864)

Children of John William & Catherine Robinson (1880's - 1890's, including Palmer, 1898). and a few others.

Definite links to your family, but not the two we'd like.

As for the marriages, well, Cockermouth registration district if huge.  They could have been in Keswick, Workington, or a myriad of tiny villages in between, C of E or Methodist, or the Register office!

I'll keep an eye out - they may be on an electoral register married and that may give a clue where they are, and I'll look at baptisms in the  Primitive Methodists.

It may be worth sending for one of the certificates, but on the other hand therare still some problems with the post, and we'relead to believe a backlog after "Who do You Think You Are?".

I don't know which are the most important link s for you.  It's up to you, Gillian.  I'm happy to keep looking and I resent giving them £7 to sit and wait, but there's always the niggling feeling about the register office!

Over to you!  I'm enjoying the hunt either way!

Seriously if I think  of anything and I get chance I'll try  it, and if you've any requests let me know!

Oh, I nearly forgot!  The link!  I couldn't find a will in our index, (on loose papers), but I looked in the national wills calender today, and Palmer Robinson who died 1909 did leave a will, proven in Carlisle,.

Palmer Robinson, died Fern Bank, Cockermouth,Cumberland, builder, Probate Carlisle, 17 September to John William Robinson builder and Ann Robinson spinster. 

John William is father of the next Palmer Robinson in the Methodist Circuit register!

I will look right through the (quite large) section of Robinsons and find the film of the original.  I'll let you know if there is much more information, Gillian.  Not sure when.  Transport's a problem, but I'll be back!!

Good luck with the search!

Emms.

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

You're a star!! Thanks once again for searching the archives!

I did wonder why I could not find many Robinson baptisms. The IGI does not cover the later years for the methodist church.

The easiest route is probably to send for the birth/marr certs of Fred & Ada Robinson.

I suspected that Palmer would have a will as he owned a business and had no children. The business could have been passed on to John William and the name of the business remained the same. A cousin of my mum's reckons the business was still around in the 1990s!

Thanks again Emms,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

Thank you for the kind comments, though I am enjoying it too!  I did get a quick look in yesterday and saw the will.  No huge surprises, but no major family list either!  As you said John William one benefice and executor was his nephew. 

The other, I thought might have been a misprint for Robinson, but in fact it was his housekeeper, Annie Robson.,,,,,, !in case she shall be living with me at my decease",----she was left all his household effects including furniture and prints, and also all hie jewelery and personal ornaments, and £200. 

He left his niece Mary Ethel Robinson Fifty pounds and the rest after costs to the nephew, John William.

There is another will of another Palmer Robinson of Main Street in 1924.  It was very short and just left everything to his wife Elizabeth.

Interestingly, after what you said about the nineties, an elderly person I saw yesterday used to live in Cockermouth, and she remembered them using Robinsons' decorators from the business in Main Street in the seventies and it was a couple of doors from the Central Cafe.

I'm glad the baptisms were of interest.  I'll list them for you when I get time.

I can't wait to hear how you get on with the certificates!


Good Luck!

Emms!

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Thanks once again! Ineresting Palmer will. I think that Mary Ethel Robinson was a niece from his wife's family. Her sister confusingly married a Robinson! Seems like Martha his wife died before he did.

My in-laws are staying at the moment. I'll ordr some certs once I've got the house back to normal!

Best regards,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian.

I hope this finds you well.

These are the entries from the Cockermouth and Keswick Wesleyan Methodist circuit I promised you a few days ago.

They may not all be relevant but now I've started I may as well just put them all down.

1857
Dec 30 Jonathan Lawson/ William & Betty Elliott/ Cockermouth/ One month/ William Parker

1858
Feb 13/ Margaret Hannah daughter of/ John and Jane/ Robinson/ Cockermouth/ Born Nov 30th 1857

1861
April 7th/ John son of/ John & Sarah/ Robinson/ Keswick/ Born Dec 31st 1860/ Jabez Ingham

1863
August 23rd/ Frederick son of/   ,,     ,,   /     ,,      /     ,,      /    ,,  June 7th 1863

1864
Mch 31st/ Palmer/ Joseph & Elizabeth / Robinson/ Cockermouth/ Born March 10th 1864

1865
Feb-y 9th/ Martha Emma daughter of/ John & Margaret/     ,,     /    ,,   /   ,,Jany 18th 1865

1866
Aug 15/ Martha Hannah   ,,   ,,/ Joseph& Elizabeth/   ,, /       ,,/  ,, August 11 1866

1867 (Becomes Cockermouth circuit here, noot Keswick as well).

Nov 3/ Martha Ann  ,,    ,,/ Joseph and Elizabeth/ ,, /      ,,      /   ,,Sept 18 1867

1868
Dec 31/ Henry Elliott  son of / John & Margaret/   ,,      /  ,,  / Born Dec19 1868

1869
April 29/ __________________/__________/ Robinson/___-/____/_

1869
Aug 31/John James son of/ Joseph & Isabella/ Robinson/ Broughton/ Born Sep 11 1864

1869
Aug 31/ Joseph Henry/  as above                                                       /Born Aug 22 1826

1869
Aug 31/ William Ivison/ as above                                                     / born July 8 1869

1873
Feb2/ John Edward son of/ John & Margaret/ Robinson/ Cockermouth/ Born March 16 1872

1874
June 1st/ Joseph Henry ,, / Joseph & Elizabeth /   ,,   /         ,,   / ,, May 3rd 1874

1876
July 14th/ Mary Ethel/ John & Margaret/   ,,   / ,,    /             ,,         /,,  Novr 26th 1876

1883
January 26/ William/ John & Mary SAnn/   ,,   / Church St, Dearham/ ,, November  10th 1882

1886
August 3rd/ William Henry/ Hannah Mary /    ,,  / Overend, Grey southern/ ,, April 19 1886
 [ Pronounced "Grey Soon" or similar]

1888
July thirtieth/ Joseph son of/ John William & Catherine /    ,,   / Cockermouth/ ,, July tenth 1888.

1889
November 27th/ Martha dau,,  ,,/ John William & Catherine Robinson/ Born Oct ober twentyfirst1889

1892
February 18th/ Elizabeth ,,  / ,,  ,,/   ,,,/  ,,  / Born Nov 22 1891

1892
March 8th/ Alice Cape? d,, ,,/ John & Ellen /   ,,/ Grey southern/ Born Nov 7 1891

1898
July 4th/ Palmer son of/ John William & Catherine / Robinson/ Cockermouth/ Born Ap 21 1898.

Have fun

Margaret (Emms)

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Thank you very much for those methodist baptisms.

I will be ordering those certs very soon, in-laws leave in a couple of days. Untill then I'm not allowed to get my family history files out!!! Makes the house look untidy!!!

I'll let you know the results.

Thanks again,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

You're welcome.

I've not forgotten the look ups at the record office.  A few distractions but I should be going up early in the week.  I'll let you know how I get on.

Good luck with the certificates.

Emms.

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Have just ordered the certs!!! 

Went mad & ordered a few as I haven't ordered any for a while!!

Will keep you posted!

Gillian