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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 09:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Gillian

Thanks for the extra interest.  I love the books of old photo's.

I didn't really tell you about the archives and marriages or lack of them.  For such a large company, they were quite invisible!

I looked at marriages in All Saints and Christ Church., but they weren't there!  I looked at Cockermouth Methodists, no joy.  The others I was going to look at had gaps or we don't have the register.  We don't have the RC ones for Cockermouth yet.  I would love to see those.

I'll look at the paper in the next couple of days.

Enjoy your day!

Emms

Of course there's always the register office we can't see.

And of course, Cockermouth registration district is HUGE!  It could be Dearham, Bridekirk, you name it!!

So I looked for a clue elsewhere.  I'm hoping they will have reports in the paper in the library which I'll be in soon.

No burial either, but no Cockermouth cemetery or Christ Church burials available at these dates.  Paper:

No will.  I wonder if they did keep it all in the family.

Do you know Palmer Robinson the younger?  Or Robinson Court?I did see while looking for a friend's family:

1909
8th August/ John Moffat/ (to)Palmer and Annie / Robinson/ Robinson Court/ Cabinet maker/

They both feature again!  Did they get involved in  building as well?  Was this the yard behind the shop?

I looked at a couple of electoral registers. 

Elec. Reg. had All Cockermouth.

1906-1910
Owner voter Robinson Joseph, (Abode) Robinson's Court, Main St, VCockermouth// (Owned) Leasehold dwelling house (Description)  Dwelling house in occupation of Miss Harrison.

Robinson Mary , Cocker Bridge, Dwelling House at Cocker Bridge

   ,,        Ada Mary, Old Hall Inn, owned jointly a dwelling house at Old Hall Inn.

Lodgers

Robinson, Palmer jnr, lodged in a Bed & sitting room unfurnished , at Robinson's Court Main Street, for 5s6d per week, from Joseph Robinson of Robinson's Court.

Robinson John,    ,,      ,,,     a bedroom, on the first floor, furnished, at St Helen's Tannery 11s? 1s? p wk from Robert Robinson of St Helen's Tannery.

But also, in 1906/7 only, Robinson, Palmer dwelt in and owned a dwelling house at Fern Bank.

I wonder if Palmer jnr was an oldest son/ grandson who was named after the first one and took the business on?  Fern Bank is out of the centre and off the main Road towards the Sheep and Wool Centre and Keswick.  I wonder if he built a home up there in his retirement, or even if there were younger non voters over there too?


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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Emms,

Thanks for all your efforts yet again!! Strange there being no marriages at All Saints. I thought that was definately their church!

There are a few Palmer juniors. Palmer senior b1838 Papcastle and Martha had no children.

Palmer senior's brother Joseph b1836 Papcastle had a son Palmer b1872 Cockermouth who married Catherine Moffat in 1898 Lorton.

Palmer senior's brother John William b1863 married Catherine and had a son Palmer b1898 Cockermouth. This Palmer died in WW1 14/03/1918. His parents John William & Catherine Robinson were living at 1, Fern Bank, Cockermouth at the time.

The Mary Robinson at Cocker bridge is my gg granma (merry widow!).

The Joseph Robinson Main St 1906-10 could be Joseph b1836.

I don't know anything about Fern Bank.

Thanks again for all your help!

Gillian
Elwood/Ellwood: WES & CUM
Johnson: Crosby Ravensworth, Hilton & Dufton WES
Robinson: CUM
Langhorn: Kirkby Thore WES
Dover: WES & CUM
Parker: Soulby, Bedale
Hunt: Gentleshaw, Bladon, Hanborough
Slynn: Birmingham
Rammell: KENT
Felton: Shropshire

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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 17 October 07 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Gillian

Thanks for the extra info.  Only a few minutes in the library today, so I didn't come up with any marriages -  but I may have another clue.  I did look at Cockermouth Methodist Circuit register and I thought there should be more marriages.

I've just been playing - all of five minutes and you may know about this,  I came up with the area Methodist site - link below if I can make it work -  Early Cockermouth Chapel, provided by Cooper George Robinson, on Lorton Street, the direction Palmer moved to Fern Bank.  Also other reference, at least one, to Robinsons.

Reading the blurb, I think I should look at Workington Circuit, and Cockermouth and Keswick circuit, too.  I'll have a go!

If you follow the link it should be the home page - try the links to Cockermouth etc and then on to history - maybe you've seen it already!

One newspaper result,: Cumberland Pacquet, 3 January, 1909.

Robinson, Palmer, Death:

On the 1st inst. at 1, Fern Bank, Cockermouth, Palmer Robinson, aged 70 years.


If it was number one, I wonder if he built it!?!

I'll keep you posted.
http://www.kcmethodists.org.uk/index.htm


Best wishes.

Emms.
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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 18 October 07 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Emms,

Thanks for the death announcement and the web address. I hadn't seen that website, have added to my favs.

You must spend all your free time in the library!

Regards,

Gillian
Elwood/Ellwood: WES & CUM
Johnson: Crosby Ravensworth, Hilton & Dufton WES
Robinson: CUM
Langhorn: Kirkby Thore WES
Dover: WES & CUM
Parker: Soulby, Bedale
Hunt: Gentleshaw, Bladon, Hanborough
Slynn: Birmingham
Rammell: KENT
Felton: Shropshire


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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 20 October 07 18:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Gillian

Remember those photo's that I thought hadn't come out, well next time I downloaded I found them!  Goodness knows why, but they were there.

This is the building that I got to when I counted the right number along from the next door with a number.  (The blue one with a double front.)

It's the right size and shape for the one in the book although the front has changed.

It may also not appear if I haven't mastered the software right!

We will see!

Emms.


Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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Re: Cockermouth Businesses
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 20 October 07 18:25 BST (UK) »
Whoops!

Slghitly too big!

I'm working on it!

Emms
PS Still a bit big, but I give up for tonight! At least you can see it!  I'll work on this before I start on Mayo!!
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

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« Reply #51 on: Sunday 21 October 07 23:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Gillian and All
Hopefully below we will have Mayo in all his glory - you can see why he would have been vulnerable before therte were planters, and white lines to protect him - and also Mayo in front of the shop.

There's a bit of an optical illusion because he looks to be left of the blue shop.  In fact it's because of where I was standing.  He's right opposite.

By the way, this was a quiet Sunday morning since the bypass was builI hope it works and doesn't go pearshaped!!

Best wishes to all.

Emms.!
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

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« Reply #52 on: Sunday 21 October 07 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi
Here's Mayo looking up the street!

I'll have the hang of this by the time I'm finished!!!

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas

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« Reply #53 on: Monday 22 October 07 20:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Emms,

Thanks for the photos. It's interesting to compare then and now.

Gillian
Elwood/Ellwood: WES & CUM
Johnson: Crosby Ravensworth, Hilton & Dufton WES
Robinson: CUM
Langhorn: Kirkby Thore WES
Dover: WES & CUM
Parker: Soulby, Bedale
Hunt: Gentleshaw, Bladon, Hanborough
Slynn: Birmingham
Rammell: KENT
Felton: Shropshire