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[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian  I had a short look at All Saints Cockermouth and didn't see a second marriage for Mary Robinson, but how many times was John Robinson married?  Was he a merry widower??!!

I gather this is your couple.

1859

All Saints Cockermouth

Dec24th, John Robinsin / Widower / 26/ Tailor/ Cockermouth/ Son of John Robinson, Joiner/

married

Mary Robinson/ 27/ Spinster/ --/ Cockermouth/ Dau of Thomas Robinson, Innkeeper/
Both signed.
By License, witnesses, Palmer Robinson, Nancy Cass.

Does this partly explain the combination of services.

I also saw:-
1858, Dec 25th

John Robinsin/ 22/ Bachelor/ Blacksmith of Crosby, Son of John Robinson Joiner
married
Margaret Elliott/ 24/ Spinster/ of Market Place, Cockermouth/ daughter of Henry Elliott, threadmaker/
Both signed.
by license
Witnesses Palmer Robinson and Martha Elliott.

and more likely, but there were evidently other John Robinson around, and related!

1856
Oct 19th
John Robinson/ 23/ Bachelor/ Tailor/ Cockermouth/ son of John Robinson, Joiner/

married

Jane Allison/ 23/ Spinster/ Dressmaker/ Cockermouth/ dau of John Allison weaver/

Both signed
Witnesses John Scott and Sarah Ann Armstrong.

I guess you will also have Palmer Robinson married Martha Elliott, June 22 1862.

There is also Christchurch, but I've been through that for something else since your first post went up and I think I would have notice.

That leaves the Register Office well used by this date in Cockermouth, but there should still be a GRO reference.

I'll let you know if I see anything else.

Best wishes

Emms

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

Thanks very much for those marriages. Yes my John Robinson was a widow when he married Mary Robinson. Looks like the marriage in 1856 could be his first marriage. The one in 1858 must be one of mine as well as Palmer Robinson was a witness. Too many John Robinsons!!

I don't think that Mary Robinson married again. To find out more I will have to track down a direct descendent of either Ada or Fred.

Thanks again,

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian

You're welcome!

One thing, these were a good chunk of the Robinson marriages I  saw, so it looks as if the vast majority of the Robinsions in the area belong to you, and most of the feature a John Robinson - though there was one intriguing one featuring a lady from Valletta, Malta, Cockermouth!  Cockermouth has travelled!!

[Gigi]

Hi Emms,

I think I have worked out the John Robinson/Margaret Elliott marriage. The witness Martha Elliot was Margaret's sister. Martha later married Palmer Robinson. Maybe the John Robinson is no connection but his father John was a joiner too!!! Maybe a connection further back in time!

I don't suppose you could look for a possible marriage of Ada Robinson and Fred Robinson both in 1904 All Saints?

Thanks,

Gillian

[bobgraham]

I agree that the 56 marriage would be the first marriage of the John who married Mary but what is intriguing is that both parents are joiners.
An Ada married a Nelson or a Potts in 1904
and Frederick married either aMary Ellen Craig or an Isabella Ostle. Any of these ring bells?
bob

[bobgraham]

And I forgot. There are 3 possible deaths for Jane (first wife) but I would bet on first 2 unless he was a real hard hearted b.
bob

[Gigi]

Hi Bob,

Yes it's strange that both the fathers, John Robinson, are joiners!

I saw the Ada and Fred marriages on freebmd. I don't know who they married and my mum and her cousins don't know either. I would be interested to see if any fathers are mentioned in the church registers.

I saw the Jane Robinson deaths too on freebmd. I agree that maybe the earliest Cockermouth one is the most likely. The later one seems a bit too soon before his second marriage!!!

Gillian

[emmsthheight]

Hi Gillian and Bob

This is getting exciting!  Yes, certainly I'll have a look at All Saints again.

A marriage for Ada or |Fred would be intriguing wouldn't it, and especially both..I'll look at the burials too, but they're a bit of a pest, because many at this date, don't give any info.

I wonder if there's a newspaper obituary, as they evidently were well known in the town.

I'll keep you posted, and Thanks for the fascinating feedback.

Emms

[bobgraham]

Mmm.
our local paper has an archive online section that seems to go back a fortnight! It also has an "important people" section from Melvin Bragg to Chris Bonnington but only 1 "Captain Robinson".
Having said that I got my GGF's obit at Workington by going in and searching but only cos I knew the rough date of his blowing himself up!!  If you knew the death date, we could go check for you.
Mother permanently on phone so can't check Mayo/Central cafe for you. Will see her later in week, and if I remember cos the alzeimers/alKhol is getting worse, I'll ask her. She certainly remembers some damage to Mayo so she could remember the cafe.
You think that main street is busy now. Imagine when there was no bypass and every bus and wagon for the workington steelworks and whitehaven Marchon factory came through that narrows by the brewery and now Quince and Medlar. It was barely wide enough for a wagon and had no lights or priority system so it was everyman for himself! And on market days the whole of main st was filled with stalls and there was hardly room for old Mayo himself.
I'll have to go now as I'm getting maudlin for the past. ;>}
bob