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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 September 07 11:50 BST (UK) »
I think we both deserve that pat on the back  :D :D
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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 17:46 GMT (UK) »
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I still can't definitely link Edward to George and Marwin
Are you going to get the marriage cert to see the father's name?

No, but ... I did the next best thing!

I now have a 'mole' at the NY Records Office who looks things up for me, so that I know which are the correct certificates to order!

Took a LONG time (think my emails have been 'junk'ed by her PC) but ... by using the marriage certificate entry of Edward and Hannah Atkinson, I've been able to definitely make that link, as the father on the marriage certificate is George, a stone-mason.

Elementary my dear Mary ...

MT ;)
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 10 January 08 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Well done!  I'm glad you've had it all confirmed  :)  Now just let me think which certs I need in that area  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 21 August 14 12:53 BST (UK) »
I have also found him in 1881, where he is married, viz ...

North Farm, Broxa, North Yorks.
James HOLGATE   Head   M   Male   37   Thornton, York, England   Lab In Woods (Man)     
Mary HOLGATE   Wife   M   Female   36   Hackness, York, England   

1881 RG11/4807 folio 10 page 12


Can anyone help me with this couple in subsequent censuses, please?
I have a possible death for her in Pickering in Dec Q 1901, but would need to be a bit more certain about her age in other censuses.

Ta in advance,

MT ;)
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 21 August 14 13:37 BST (UK) »
1891 - Living in Hackness

James Holgate b 1843 Thornton Dale   Occ Woodman
Mary Holgate b 1844 Newgate
Jessie Holgate b 1886 Hackness (grand daughter)

1901 Living Market Place,Pickering

James Holgate b 1845 Thornton Dale   Occ General Labourer
Mary Holgate 1846 Hackness

Hope it helps
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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 21 August 14 14:33 BST (UK) »
Yes, it does, Goughy - thanks.
Can I push you for AGES as well please? This might help me to nail the death dates and ages on these two.

Sorry to be a pest!

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 21 August 14 15:31 BST (UK) »
1891  James 48  Mary 47
1901 James 56 Mary 55
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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 21 August 14 15:53 BST (UK) »
Cheers, Goughy.
Having thought again, I should have worked out the ages for my self from the dates of birth given in your first post! :)

Quite some variation there though; I suppose it has to be the same pair though, so happy with this.

Cheers again.
MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: 1861 look-up please - Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holdgate)
« Reply #35 on: Friday 29 August 14 11:22 BST (UK) »
Still can't find Elizabeth Sedman in the 1861 census and I've tried everything that I can think of.

She and Thomas only married in November 1860 and I can't work out why they would be apart in the 1861 census; as stated earlier, he is alone at the Talbot Hotel, Queen Street, Scarborough, Yorks. (RG9/3617 Folio: 81 Page: 27) and that is definitely him.
UPDATE: Just looked at the original image of the above Thomas Sedman and it might not be him. The one on that census return is 34, a few years older than my Thomas Sedman should be.
This means that they are probably together somewhere ...


Thomas Sedman: born c1831-1835 at Hawsker, North Yorks.
Elizabeth Sedman (nee Holgate/Holdgate): born April 1840 at Thornton Dale

Anyone else feel like chipping in at all? ???

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk