BD&M Lookup Vic please - BARTLETT

[elsie ellen]

Sorry I couln't continue with my last posting earlier tonight. Visitors.

The witnesses to the first marriage - Matilda and Hector are Edward Williams (brother) and William Knowles (brother-in-law).

I have just received an email confirming that Edward's wife Louisa Bartlett was the sister of Hector, and as posted earlier, he died in Catlemaine in 1940s.
Perhaps purchasing his death certificate might add some new light, now I know it is definitely him.

How long did one have to wait for someone to be declared dead after desertion?

Really am appreciating all the input. Thanks.

Elsie

[tropicalj]

 

have just received an email confirming that Edward's wife Louisa Bartlett was the sister of Hector, and as posted earlier, he died in Catlemaine in 1940s.
Perhaps purchasing his death certificate might add some new light, now I know it is definitely him.

I  am  not sure  whose death certificate you mean here !

regards Jenn

[deeiluka]

How long did one have to wait for someone to be declared dead after desertion?

Elsie

Elsie, here's a quote from
http://www.aifs.gov.au/institute/seminars/finlay.html#australia

"In Australia, as we have seen, the expedient of parliamentary divorce, as a way of escaping from a marriage, had never existed. A ‘popular’ way out was bigamy based on the presumption of death. This presumption was based on a common law rule in English law ‘that a person could be presumed dead, who had not been heard of for seven years by those who would be most likely to hear of them if they were alive.’40 The rule was institutionalised by legislation:"

The section Australia: Bigamy and the presumption of death: a ‘People’s Divorce’  on the website page makes interesting reading.  Could make an interesting thread on its own.......think there might be quite a few of us who have ancestors who "married" presumptiously!     

.....dee

[EDO]

G'day Dee

I know that some of those female convicts who went to VDL [Tasmania], and probably elsewhere,
married [again], as widows  , with 'the blessing' of the powers that be.

My GggGrandmother did in Hobart in 1845!!!

If she hadn't I would not be here!!!!!
_{[to annoy everyone with my lateral eccentricities].}

EDO

[elsie ellen]

Hi Everyone! 

Well...to continue...

I have just purchased a copy of Hector Bartlett's death certificate (1941). Hector died in a Benevolent Home in Castelmaine and they are the informants!So there is little more to go on from that. All they acknowledge is that he was married. To whom, when etc the answer is not known. So basically it would seem that Matilda is off the radar screen of his life!

(Annie didn't die until 1952.)

That avenue of search seems to be a dead end.

A puzzled Elsie

[deeiluka]

Oh Elsie, it really is a puzzle. I'm afraid I am right out of ideas on this one at the moment. I hav e just had another good search of the indexes using spelling variations, but nothing new came up.

.....dee

[elsie ellen]

Hi ...dee!

I have really appreciated all your help and thoughtful suggestions. Thank you.

I continue to stare at the signatures on both marriage certificates, and the more I do the more I see the similarities in the handwriting of the surname. Autosuggestion or reality?

Maybe I'll never really know and that was the way it was meant to be. However, I'll keep searching and following any lead I can....for now I do know there is something to know!!!

Elsie

[deeiluka]

Elsie, can you scan the signatures on the certificates and post the images on here? More opinions wouldn't hurt.....

......dee

[elsie ellen]

...dee

I have a scanner, but how do I get it to scan to this thread?

Elsie