WILDMAN/TYLER

[Dale]

Marlene Dale here!
Just to report Joan is sitting up, walking occasionally and eating like there's no tomorrow. Hair set (very like Betty Windsor) nails painted and looking for an aging rocker! Rod Stewart who ran away with our Rachel (!) is tooooo young!
Thanks everyone for your best wishes - they worked! When the staples are out of the wound I have asked for a rehab programme, similar to that of an injured All Black. Might be off air at times while I watch a few important games over the next weeks.

I'm trying to sort out whether we can connect any of these Faireys Gill - where on earth did they all come from??
Ciao for now
Marlene

[shirle]

I have been scrolling through the 1871 census for Riseley dist 1 High Street.  How long was High Street?  It seems to go on forever. 

What I discovered was that the families we have been discussing as well as the Bailey family, GGGrandmother & decendents,  All lived in High Street.

Shirley

[shirle]

John

Re: Wildmans of Riseley

Marriage of Thomas & Temperance has witness as George Bafs.  1841 census living next door to Temperance & her family is George Bass & his family.  Bit of a coincidence or not.

Shirley 

[Dale]

Shirle have a look at Genuki for Riseley Beds. You'll get an idea of the village and the population size over time.
Also google Rsieley  there's a site with the village church etc.

When there was a double s in a name it was often written fs, that is, Bafs and Bass would almost certainly be the same person.
Cheers
Marlene

[johnP-bedford]

The Bells, the Bells .... from another tree, I have the following

John Bell first married Mary Hulatt 1785 in Turvey ; they had
Thomas Bell 1785 - he married Sarah Fairey in 1806
Catherine Bell 1793 - she married James Wildman in 1817

John Bell next married Elizabeth Moor 1796 in Chellington, they had
Samuel Bell - he married Martha Swannell in 1818

there's also an Ann Bell who married a William White in 1856

Regards John
 

[shirle]

So where does Martha Bell m John Smith come into all this, she married before Martha More Bell was born.  John would have hardly have named 2 daughters Martha would he?  One Martha for each marriage.  Just as well he only married twice if he did.

There is a gap of approx 30 years between John Bell and Martha Bell if they were siblings.  If they were, I am thankful that I didn't live in that era, unless John & Martha's father married again and he had a younger family which included Martha.

Does your source say what connection  Ann Bell m William White is.

Shirley

[johnP-bedford]

Ann Bell was another daughter of John  (& Elizabeth) Bell born 1809-1811. She is on IGI as mother to William Bell b 1829 at Felmersham, the father is not named.  On 1851 census William White age 39 & wife Mary & children were living in Felmersham 2 doors up from Ann Bell & her son William. William's father is John White as per his marriage to Ann.

Martha More was daughter of Samual Bell & Martha Swannell, & no this new source does not have the John Smith / Martha Bell marriage.

[johnP-bedford]

Ann Wildman b 1823 to James & Catherine, & in 1851 was a niece living with John Smith & Martha. Tracked her forward & find she married Thomas Wilkinson of Keysoe on 15/10/1858 at Keysoe.

On 1871 the pair was living next door to William Wildman age 70 unmarried Carpenter of Keysoe.
Back to 1861 William is with widowed brother George.
Back to 1851 William is a lodger, but 2 doors up are brothers George, Thomas & Edward, plus widowed mother Ann age 73 born Thurleigh.
Back to 1841, Ann Wildman with sons George, Samuel, Thomas & Edward; while William is still in same lodgings.

So Ann Wildman born 1778 Thurleigh ? - could she be the Ann Ward who married William Wildman aka Tyler at Thurleigh on 24/12/1798
 
 

[johnP-bedford]

None of them Wildman brothers were baptised at Keysoe as per the PR transcript. The IGI as William 1800 & George 1803 baptised in Ravensden to parents William Wildman & Ann.

Also found a Tyler Wildman christened on 26/11/1775 at Ravensden; parents Edward & Mary.

John

nb. this topic has had 80 views since my previous posting - so it must be of interest but nothing new to be added...